tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post2100480440418617325..comments2024-03-29T05:21:11.278+00:00Comments on Ambush Predator: Dog Attacks: I Don’t See Why We Should Worry About ‘Privatised’ Police…JuliaMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07844126589712842477noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-49809950982495490142012-03-25T17:21:40.605+01:002012-03-25T17:21:40.605+01:00That’s my point, you will always find what you may...That’s my point, you will always find what you may consider bad decisions, and be able to ignore the many good ones as an armchair critic. <br /><br />Please also be aware that the decision to use finite resources to do something you personally might not agree about (and can easily ridicule), will quite often not be down the lads and lasses at the coal face.Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16581012379104552638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-47771346981174284922012-03-25T16:56:05.787+01:002012-03-25T16:56:05.787+01:00"I get a bit fed up with armchair critics who...<i>"I get a bit fed up with armchair critics who think there is a box of police officers that can be opened and rushed out deal with the next complaint."</i><br /><br />Well, you could always stop dealing with all the Mickey Mouse cases, then? <br /><br />The 'people being mean on the Internet' ones, the 'people having sex in the open' ones (sent a helicopter for that!) and, as I'll be blogging later in the week, the 'takeaway opening too late to sell hot food' ones...<br /><br /><i>" But I just wanted to make the point that you will never be able to do all that is asked of you."</i><br /><br />Who asked that Channel Four be prosecuted for going undercover in a mosque? Who asked that you swoop on a shop selling novelty calculators shaped like guns? Who asked that you stage dawn raids on football fans chanting off colour ditties?<br /><br />Not me. Not any of my colleagues and friends.JuliaMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07844126589712842477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-9258843599548329762012-03-25T15:12:42.284+01:002012-03-25T15:12:42.284+01:00Once, a few years ago I confess. But I just want...Once, a few years ago I confess. But I just wanted to make the point that you will never be able to do all that is asked of you. It’s easy for people to say "it should prove extremely difficult to get under the level set by the present service", and sometimes, but not often, that sort of ignorance gets to me. <br />And for someone to say that this is a police state is beyond ignorant, just plain stupid!Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16581012379104552638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-26475952045372812272012-03-25T14:35:20.719+01:002012-03-25T14:35:20.719+01:00"For you all you whinging gits, walk a mile i..."For you all you whinging gits, walk a mile in the shoes of a police officer then come back and say something sensible and credible!"<br /><br />Plod, perchance?Taking a Wild Guessnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-91337751001243251912012-03-25T12:48:37.772+01:002012-03-25T12:48:37.772+01:00"Of course you don't count, Britain is a ..."Of course you don't count, Britain is a police state, not a democracy"<br /><br />Mmmmmmmm Really?Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16581012379104552638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-81502217125874429532012-03-25T12:44:18.058+01:002012-03-25T12:44:18.058+01:00While the police are dealing with a dog, they are ...While the police are dealing with a dog, they are not dealing with a burglar. While they are dealing with the effects of the 24 hour drinking culture you all wanted (but didn’t want to pay for extra policing resources) they are not dealing with a drug dealer.<br />I get a bit fed up with armchair critics who think there is a box of police officers that can be opened and rushed out deal with the next complaint.<br />Now it seems the police have to downsize by 20%, does that also mean that there will be no more laws passed, and those that are in place are going to be reduced by 20% ? I thought not.<br />For you all you whinging gits, walk a mile in the shoes of a police officer then come back and say something sensible and credible!Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16581012379104552638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-39777107571008279632012-03-25T06:50:02.113+01:002012-03-25T06:50:02.113+01:00"From what I can make out, correct me if I...<i>"From what I can make out, correct me if I'm wrong here."</i> <br /><br />No, you're not wrong. The dog is an evident weapon. <br /><br />But any large, defensive-aggressive territorial breed might do the same, in the circumstances.<br /><br /><i>"So any idea that the law gets changed for our benefit won't convince me."</i> <br /><br />Not <i>just</i> your benefit. <br /><br />Also the posties, the nurses, the social workers (Oh, we know how many dangerous situations the SS go into, don't we?).<br /><br />Just not ordinary people.<br /><br /><i>"Some people don't like the police and won't make statements."</i> <br /><br />True. Not this man, though. He made a statement. The police visited the address. And then?<br /><br />*crickets*<br /><br /><i>"Oh yes, Anonymous. The Police have been negligent in their duties about dangerous dogs for years and the public be damned. Now they are bitten suddenly its a big issue."</i> <br /><br />Yes. This. Sorry anon(s). This is the crux of the matter.JuliaMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07844126589712842477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-17276000517684963832012-03-24T20:57:18.770+00:002012-03-24T20:57:18.770+00:00Oh yes, Anonymous. The Police have been negligent ...Oh yes, Anonymous. The Police have been negligent in their duties about dangerous dogs for years and the public be damned. Now they are bitten suddenly its a big issue.<br /><br />I can't begin to tell you how upset we are about that.Brian, follower of Deornothhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11941277617617928470noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-75505900843273808312012-03-24T19:40:13.978+00:002012-03-24T19:40:13.978+00:00Nice dig at the public sector uk Fred....i suppose...Nice dig at the public sector uk Fred....i suppose you are one of those multi-milionaire private sector types whose greed has ruined the country.<br /><br />It's been a few years since i had labourers waving their wage packets at me as i was stood outside the nightclub waiting to deal with their regular bouts of drunken violence at 3am. Private sector taking the proverbial out of us was ok back then.<br /><br /><br />Private sector...ok when your making a fortune but when you have ruined it...well lets have a dig at those in the public sector. Don't suppose you are a Tory politician at all....forget it, i don't want to know.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-76797537330497011892012-03-24T19:31:37.837+00:002012-03-24T19:31:37.837+00:00A lot of Officers are very supportive of victims o...A lot of Officers are very supportive of victims of dog bites but that doesn't fit the agenda. Some people don't like the police and won't make statements. Can we condemn them as a whole?<br /><br />It may surprise you, or not, but it all depends on the motivation of the injured party. Some injured parties are animal lovers and don't want to make complaints as they don't want the animal to be put down etc. Some injured parties don't want a criminal case, just want compensation from the owner and settle between themselves so no official compaint is made. Without evidence we cannot prosecute. I suppose these are the fault of the police too.<br /><br />Any way...cue the police abuse. I wish i could generalise all the public in the same manner, but i actually know a lot of decent people outside the job...what a shame. And if anything like that happened to them, i would be urging them to make a complaint for me to deal, same as i would for any member of the public.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-82519952846019805942012-03-24T19:29:10.856+00:002012-03-24T19:29:10.856+00:00This is the same ACPO who are currently accused of...This is the same ACPO who are currently accused of hiring recently retired members as consultants, isn't it?<br /><br />in response to "Don't we count?", Julia, the answer is only when we don't cough up enough money in taxes to enable the public sector to live in the style to which they have become accustomed.uk Fredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09523678777794356039noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-34808509108144688832012-03-24T19:20:05.501+00:002012-03-24T19:20:05.501+00:00ACPO may well have jumped on the bandwagon...but s...ACPO may well have jumped on the bandwagon...but seeing as they don't go to jobs it is not for their benefit. They will be rubbing their hands at the prospect of Winsor allowing them to sack these injured officers.<br /><br />Do we (officers on the ground) fare better than members of the public. Personally, i don't think so. The courts have effectively told us we should be expected to put up with a level of verbal abuse....because we are the police. Verbally abusing an Officer is an offence in many European countries. I think the message is that the British Public is so far ingrained in victimhood and ill-manners that it is pointless criminalising their behaviour towards the police. Most attacks on police get dropped, the last 2 on me have.<br /><br />So any idea that the law gets changed for our benefit won't convince me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-90271223424946027782012-03-24T17:11:29.863+00:002012-03-24T17:11:29.863+00:00Of course you don't count, Britain is a police...Of course you don't count, Britain is a police state, not a democracy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-62558769097779905902012-03-24T15:15:50.302+00:002012-03-24T15:15:50.302+00:00From what I can make out, correct me if I'm wr...From what I can make out, correct me if I'm wrong here. <br />From the dogs point of view, a group of large men dressed as "Ninjas" kick in his door, they then pile in shouting and balling whilst charging through the house, they man handle his owner to the floor, and then wonder why the dog doesn't just sit there with a stupid look on it's face. Is that about the size of it?Budvarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01411709142357622721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-66952520882448590762012-03-24T14:11:08.477+00:002012-03-24T14:11:08.477+00:00"I don't see why we should worry about &#..."I don't see why we should worry about 'privatised' police."<br /><br />From the ineptness point of view (and there may be more of that quality to emerge from the latest fiasco) it should prove extremely difficult to get under the level set by the present service.A salt and batterednoreply@blogger.com