tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post2652549590285516210..comments2024-03-28T05:11:45.745+00:00Comments on Ambush Predator: They Understand The Workings Of The Human Body…JuliaMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07844126589712842477noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-67767595858645151942009-06-04T18:25:34.620+01:002009-06-04T18:25:34.620+01:00You're welcome! Hope it helped...You're welcome! Hope it helped...JuliaMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07844126589712842477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-53273121299990017922009-06-04T18:09:46.701+01:002009-06-04T18:09:46.701+01:00Thanks for the blog tips, Julia.Thanks for the blog tips, Julia.Philipahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03440234602399886097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-6500369790522624342009-06-04T18:08:35.956+01:002009-06-04T18:08:35.956+01:00This comment has been removed by the author.Philipahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03440234602399886097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-41367887418551936832009-06-04T17:42:43.286+01:002009-06-04T17:42:43.286+01:00"Actually offering single vaccines is a terri...<i>"Actually offering single vaccines is a terrible idea, and this is actual documented fact.."</i> <br /><br />That was then. This is now. The parents aren't saying they don't want to vaccinate, they are saying they don't want MMR.<br /><br />It may not be such a terrible idea given the alternative.<br /><br /><i>"Since MMR doesn't cause autism and Dr Wakefield is a dangerous quack, the whole debate is really pretty silly."</i> <br /><br />And <i>that's</i> the attitude that will ensure nothing changes.JuliaMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07844126589712842477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-88527125031145543922009-06-04T17:14:27.263+01:002009-06-04T17:14:27.263+01:00Actually offering single vaccines is a terrible id...Actually offering single vaccines is a terrible idea, and this is actual documented fact; in the 1970s a triple vaccine was found to be faulty and replaced with three single vaccines.<br /><br />What happened is that even young kids very quickly learned to associate going to the doc with painful injections, and threw tantrums after the first few. Many mothers threw in the towel at that point, and a lot of kids didn't get the full set of vaccinations.<br /><br />This led to increased mortality, mortality that was entirely preventable. Since MMR doesn't cause autism and Dr Wakefield is a dangerous quack, the whole debate is really pretty silly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-20925097449467022422009-06-04T14:26:56.500+01:002009-06-04T14:26:56.500+01:00"However she doesn't take into account th...<i>"However she doesn't take into account those children who cannot be vaccinated e.g. if they are immunocompromised in some way, or vulnerable adults e.g. HIV+, who must rely on herd immunity. Who will take responsibility for death or disablement in this population?"</i> <br /><br />It's a tricky one, but surely they'd be best off focussing their efforts on ensuring that those who want a single vaccine can get it, rather than an 'all or nothing!' approach?<br /><br />It's quite clear that attempting to strongarm people is going to backfire big time...JuliaMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07844126589712842477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-5711340251852354572009-06-04T14:24:39.979+01:002009-06-04T14:24:39.979+01:00"The only answer is to offer parents the vacc...<i>"The only answer is to offer parents the vaccinations separately."</i> <br /><br />Yes. The fact they <i>don't</i>, when it's obvious there is a disconnect that can't be mended, is down to not wanting to be seen to 'give in'. <br /><br />Which is unconscionable when you look at the possible effects...<br /><br /><i>"It's not the fault of people in such numbers for having concerns it's the governments fault for not recognising public feeling and resonding to it."</i> <br /><br />Absolutely bang on!JuliaMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07844126589712842477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-26520996413210867732009-06-04T14:17:20.810+01:002009-06-04T14:17:20.810+01:00Always a difficult question of liberty versus resp...Always a difficult question of liberty versus responsibility.James Highamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14525082702330365464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-18210679508540983662009-06-04T12:51:55.425+01:002009-06-04T12:51:55.425+01:00Following on from Rob's comment, state educati...Following on from Rob's comment, state education is "free" in the same way the NHS is "free": it's free at the point of delivery but someone (guess who?) pays through the nose. The payers (ie the taxpayers) actually receive a crap education system and, as it happens, a less than ideal health system. Not coincidentally, both systems are run for the benefit of the bureaucracy and the producer groups which run them and work in them. The "consumers" - parents and patients - don't get a look-in.Umbongonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-61308813660614248332009-06-04T12:40:39.922+01:002009-06-04T12:40:39.922+01:00"if they are to receive the benefit of a free..."if they are to receive the <b>benefit</b> of a free education from the state"<br /><br />What f*cking benefit? He's taking the piss, right?Robnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-52046596805631171692009-06-04T10:53:17.854+01:002009-06-04T10:53:17.854+01:00Sue said "the state should only intervene whe...Sue said "the state should only intervene when necessary". I completely agree. She also said "Those that choose to have their children vaccinated, don't have to worry about their kids getting measles. Those that don't, take responsibility for that decision and may pay for it for the rest of their lives if the outcome is a disabled child." Which is true. However she doesn't take into account those children who cannot be vaccinated e.g. if they are immunocompromised in some way, or vulnerable adults e.g. HIV+, who must rely on herd immunity. Who will take responsibility for death or disablement in this population?IceQueennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-78957921362774987022009-06-04T10:52:43.114+01:002009-06-04T10:52:43.114+01:00"Julia, how do you put the Dale banner in the...<i>"Julia, how do you put the Dale banner in the sidebar? Can you tell me, please??"</i> <br /><br />I saved the .gif I needed to my hard drive from Dale's site, then went to the 'Edit' function on the dashboard and used the 'Add a Gadget' option. <br /><br />You can choose to add a picture with an active link (the one of Iain's site), it's about the fourth or fifth option down, if memory recalls.<br /><br />At least, that's how I did it! There may be better options...JuliaMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07844126589712842477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-2980133336468862772009-06-04T10:30:29.894+01:002009-06-04T10:30:29.894+01:00I agree with Sue: "The only answer is to offe...I agree with Sue: "<i>The only answer is to offer parents the vaccinations separately. After all, you are injecting 3 horrible diseases into a small baby all at once. <br /><br />Logic tells you that it's not exactly a sensible thing to do!</i><br /><br />My children haven't had the MMR and soon they will be calling that child abuse if they make vaccinations compulsory.<br /><br />My son has exhibited high allergic reactions and combined jabs of any kind have been warned against by a health professional, yet of course my GP disagrees and is short-tempered with me. I've sourced single jabs but there is no regulation so they could be injecting anything into him. I've done nothing as yet. The government should at least offer single jabs for those who wish to pay, making the issue not one of cost but safety for the child. At the moment they are just bullying the public. It's not the fault of people in such numbers for having concerns it's the governments fault for not recognising public feeling and resonding to it.<br /><br />PS: Julia, how do you put the Dale banner in the sidebar? Can you tell me, please??Philipahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03440234602399886097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-53850784632746789212009-06-04T10:19:47.484+01:002009-06-04T10:19:47.484+01:00The state should stop interfering with our childre...The state should stop interfering with our children. The state should only intervene when necessary.<br /><br />Those that choose to have their children vaccinated, don't have to worry about their kids getting measles. Those that don't, take responsibility for that decision and may pay for it for the rest of their lives if the outcome is a disabled child.<br /><br />However, there are thousands of parents who believe that the MMR caused far worse damage to their now autistic children. <br /><br />If the programme becomes compulsory, will the government take responsibility for those that have an adverse reaction? I doubt it, since they deny the vaccination is at fault.<br /><br />The only answer is to offer parents the vaccinations separately. After all, you are injecting 3 horrible diseases into a small baby all at once. <br /><br />Logic tells you that it's not exactly a sensible thing to do!Suehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07165615283953837706noreply@blogger.com