tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post3339101064983211970..comments2024-03-18T15:08:44.116+00:00Comments on Ambush Predator: Can We Please Stop Taking Out An Onion For This Man?JuliaMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07844126589712842477noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-84284805120422807572009-08-04T13:45:44.411+01:002009-08-04T13:45:44.411+01:00They got more sympathy from me then McKinnon does,...They got more sympathy from me then McKinnon does, for the very little that it's worth. From what I remember their "offence" didn't exist in the UK, the supposed victim company was British, it all took place in the UK and the only connection to the US at all was that they were hugely embarrassed by the Enron scandal and were prepared to go after anyone tenuously connected with it. McKinnon does at least have a case to answer even if he is a harmless tinfoil hatter and even if he might really be in his situation because some American egos got bruised.Angry Exilehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02491082312193274360noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-57577241380567065372009-08-04T11:04:59.263+01:002009-08-04T11:04:59.263+01:00"However, I think Clegg would have done bette...<i>"However, I think Clegg would have done better to focus on the one sided extradition arrangements between the US and UK. As was highlighted a while back when the 'NatWest Three' were in the papers for a similar reason..."</i> <br /><br />And they didn't get half as much sympathy as McKinnon, did they? <br /><br />'Is ir 'cos I is Rain Man..?'JuliaMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07844126589712842477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-44677174345871040942009-08-04T02:10:10.563+01:002009-08-04T02:10:10.563+01:00OK, I was wrong about the onionsOK, I was wrong about the onionsMikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00594481483171507584noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-78541823631360667992009-08-03T21:55:48.532+01:002009-08-03T21:55:48.532+01:00Can I remind you, Nicky, that our very own justice...<i>Can I remind you, Nicky, that our very own justice system will refuse parole to anyone who fails to 'acknowledge' his crime? So, if you happen to be innocent, you'll spend more time behind bars if you insist on that fact. <br /><br />That's not so very different, is it?</i><br><br>In fairness I think what he's having a pop at is that McKinnon would have been charged with less serious offences had he come quietly rather than challenge the extradition. This is done frequently in the UK as well of course. From 'fixed penalty' speeding fines and police cautions on up, justice is frequently geared to getting a result without too much time and effort and expense on the part of the prosecuting parties... and incidentally fuck the accused - if they don't like it they can have their day in court instead, but knowing that But it's really not the same as not getting paroled because you're still refusing to own up to the crime for which you were imprisoned.<br /><br />However, I think Clegg would have done better to focus on the one sided extradition arrangements between the US and UK. As was highlighted a while back when the 'NatWest Three' were in the papers for a similar reason, it's bloody hard to extradite from the US but the UK seems pathetically eager to ship its citizens off to answer charges in American courts. McKinnon seems to have more of a case to answer than the NatWest blokes but note that he is not fighting trial, just trial in the US where being a dedicated tinfoil hat wearing window licker - not to mention having Asperger's - might not be enough to stop him being repeatedly arse raped for months or years. A sensible course of action would be to prevent or monitor his internet use so that he couldn't carry on hacking, but while a British court might go for that, or even a US court had McKinnon been a septic or a US resident, about all they can practically do is lock the nutter up. This whole thing would be a total non-story if the supine British government had the minerals to send a short email to the US prosecutors saying simply that the man is a harmless loony who's probably read too much sci-fi and they can't have him.Angry Exilehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02491082312193274360noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-81531780120188263692009-08-03T10:30:09.455+01:002009-08-03T10:30:09.455+01:00I am reliably informed he doesn't like onions,...I am reliably informed he doesn't like onions, fish on the other hand is a completely different story.<br />Can we find out what is available in the Bay area just in case?Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00594481483171507584noreply@blogger.com