tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post5201707561176357758..comments2024-03-28T16:07:39.332+00:00Comments on Ambush Predator: FaceBook And Teachers – Like Matter And AntiMatterJuliaMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07844126589712842477noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-49848092460825761442011-10-16T16:14:22.154+01:002011-10-16T16:14:22.154+01:00No, but I spent a fortnight there one Saturday.No, but I spent a fortnight there one Saturday.Richardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15743685798068014455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-62574794949536684432011-10-15T06:24:09.776+01:002011-10-15T06:24:09.776+01:00"I've never lived anywhere more insular.&...<i>"I've never lived anywhere more insular."</i> <br /><br />Not lived in Norfolk then?JuliaMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07844126589712842477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-90586749030418947712011-10-15T06:07:31.876+01:002011-10-15T06:07:31.876+01:00They used to call Hull 'the biggest village in...They used to call Hull 'the biggest village in England', and it's true to some extent. Friendly people, but inward-looking. I've never lived anywhere more insular. We had teachers in the school who were born in Hull, went to school in Hull, went to Hull University, and immediately started teaching in Hull. Cosmopolitan it's not. The isolated feel of Hull began to disintegrate when the M62 was extended, but going to Uni in Leeds was still regarded as adventuresome. Funnily enough, I moved to work in Milford Haven, which has a similar end-of-the-line feel to it, and for the same reason - long-term isolation from the main popluation centres due to the lack of decent road links.Richardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15743685798068014455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-40954706905876744502011-10-14T22:32:37.191+01:002011-10-14T22:32:37.191+01:00The East/West Hull rugby rivalry is intense, but q...The East/West Hull rugby rivalry is intense, but quite good natured. It's not physical, just cheerfully no-holds-barred insulting. Nothing is off-limits. Nothing. <br /><br />And yes, East Hull is totally Anglo-Saxon. The small population of Asylum Seekers, and foreign students, are all in West Hull.<br /><br />East Hull is backed by rural Holderness, then the North Sea. But West Hull has a motorway, and the Humber Bridge. All sorts of cultural influences trickle in from outside. Lincolnshire, Lancashire, all kinds of foreigners. :-)<br /><br />Whenever a silly barge goes up the River Hull, all the little bridges open and stop all traffic. A constant reminder of the East/West divide.<br /><br />Hull is a bit different. It used to be very proud. It still has some attitude, but the loss of its industry and fishing has taken a heavy toll. Alas.Zaphodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03695819392577629492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-72159464178827454542011-10-14T13:31:34.088+01:002011-10-14T13:31:34.088+01:00Far from it! When I was a teacher I changed union...Far from it! When I was a teacher I changed unions 3 times, all because of this kind of issue. The NAS/UWT threw me out because I refused to join a strike. I'm quite proud of this. The NUT are exactly as people portray them - lefty down-wiv-da-kidz twits who nevertheless get very militaristic when their members' money is concerned. Most teachers join a union because of the insurance cover - in fact, you would be mad not to have this - and the unions use this to bolster membership and claim wide support. Most teachers are not militant, although that doesn't mean you would want to sit next to one at a party. They can still be painfully worthy and self-righteous.Richardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15743685798068014455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-14376887387349115452011-10-14T05:34:03.200+01:002011-10-14T05:34:03.200+01:00"East Hull is a very poor area and almost exc...<i>"East Hull is a very poor area and almost exclusively white working class. Easy to despise, then."</i> <br /><br />Yup. As Foxy Brown points out, you wouldn't DARE say anything like that of a mainly immigrant area, not if you wanted to retain your job.<br /><br /><i>"My ***Head of Department*** FFS used to refer to teachers who believed in teaching spelling and grammar disparagingly as 'standards men'..."</i> <br /><br />GAH!<br /><br /><i>"Have to say I am with the kids, and against the nasty, snobby, elitist, entitled, sneering teachers here."</i> <br /><br />You won't be supporting the NUT strike action, then...? ;)JuliaMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07844126589712842477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-57450306374682590062011-10-14T05:31:18.017+01:002011-10-14T05:31:18.017+01:00"So which is it? Knee-jerk snobbery or teache...<i>"So which is it? Knee-jerk snobbery or teachers are paid too much to ever consider shopping at Poundland, unlike an increasing proportion of the population?"</i> <br /><br />Indeed! Even I shop at Poundland occasionally.<br /><br /><i>"If there's an award out there for blog titles, it should be given to JuliaM for life."</i> <br /><br />Cheers! :) <br /><br />I'd say it's probably not any more of an infringement of liberty than viewing the thing - could do them for flyposting, though?<br /><br /><i>""No, son, it's why you call Uncle Jimmy, 'Granddad'""</i> <br /><br />*chuckle*<br /><br /><i>"The population of Hull has to be at least 98% white, so within the consciousness of the Guardian reader it's perfectly acceptable to label these children "thick" and "inbred"."</i><br /><br />Spot on!JuliaMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07844126589712842477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-10594412160655231622011-10-13T21:06:33.151+01:002011-10-13T21:06:33.151+01:00"Mummy the teacher called me inbred"
&qu..."Mummy the teacher called me inbred"<br />"Do you know what means son?"<br />"Yes mummy I do"<br />"Well done Son,give me a high six"<br />JadedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-69353846779331951272011-10-13T20:15:08.828+01:002011-10-13T20:15:08.828+01:00I taught in a secondary school less than a mile aw...I taught in a secondary school less than a mile away from Westcott. A couple of observations from experience (bearing in mind it was a few years ago):<br /><br />1. East Hull is a very poor area and almost exclusively white working class. Easy to despise, then.<br /><br />2. The teachers in my school were mostly either utter incompetents who couldn't get a job anywhere else, or socialist types who typically expected very little from the kids because of their deprivation. My ***Head of Department*** FFS used to refer to teachers who believed in teaching spelling and grammar disparagingly as 'standards men', i.e. they kept banging on about standards all the time, boring boring boring.<br /><br />3. Some of the kids were utterly, indescribably poor - eighth-hand shoes, kind of thing. Lunch, for many of them, was a 'breadcake' (8" circular bread bun) spread with tomato sauce. Generally they were a decent bunch, some rogues but a lot of diamonds as well. I liked them.<br /><br />4. The rivalry between the rugby teams of East and West Hull has to be experienced to be believed. It makes a Celtic v Rangers match look like a love-in. That part of the story is probably true.<br /><br />Have to say I am with the kids, and against the nasty, snobby, elitist, entitled, sneering teachers here. Have that kind of conversation in private by all means, but as we all know Facebook posts might as well be a notice in a newsagent's window, and the teachers were stupid to do it. What it revealed about their attitude to their work should be the basis for dismissal.<br /><br />The parents look poor and stupid, so go ahead and make fun, but at least they are not well-paid, confortable hypocrites like those who deign to 'teach' them.Richardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15743685798068014455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-52984051570312203002011-10-13T18:16:00.825+01:002011-10-13T18:16:00.825+01:00"Massive queue of Westcott year 5/6 kids in p..."Massive queue of Westcott year 5/6 kids in poundland! x"<br /><br />Nothing wrong with that, per se .. <br /><br />But having met some of Hull's denizens, I suspect the kids were actually queuing up to buy "Prescott" pies .. ;)Captain Haddocknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-66630036985200687652011-10-13T17:06:17.419+01:002011-10-13T17:06:17.419+01:00Johny you are not inbred at all...well done for kn...Johny you are not inbred at all...well done for knowing what inbred meant....give me a high six.<br />JadedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-75549809846813460702011-10-13T14:58:32.685+01:002011-10-13T14:58:32.685+01:00Anyone lined up to take an IQ and DNA test to prov...Anyone lined up to take an IQ and DNA test to <i>prove</i> they aren't thick and/or inbred ....thereby settling the matter once and for all... ?<br /><br />Nope...thought not.Tattyfalarrnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-39025552166336356692011-10-13T14:14:02.756+01:002011-10-13T14:14:02.756+01:00“Do we look thick and inbred to you? Well, do we?”...“Do we look thick and inbred to you? Well, do we?”<br /><br />Er, YES!microdavehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01352078582764696261noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-17349700410503357702011-10-13T13:47:57.085+01:002011-10-13T13:47:57.085+01:00The population of Hull has to be at least 98% whit...The population of Hull has to be at least 98% white, so within the consciousness of the Guardian reader it's perfectly acceptable to label these children "thick" and "inbred". Such comments would never be uttered about a school of a similiar socio-economic demographic in inner-city Birmingham or Leiceister.Foxy Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13492883615536847926noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-35932305874813055312011-10-13T13:36:28.563+01:002011-10-13T13:36:28.563+01:00"Massive queue of Westcott year 5/6 kids in p..."Massive queue of Westcott year 5/6 kids in poundland! x"<br /><br />Because their parents are taxed to pay the wages of otherwise unemployable liberals?<br /><br />"My son came home on Monday and I had to explain to him what inbred meant."<br /><br />Bet he knows not to say nigger or queer though, or Ms Liberal in the classroom would be very angry.Gallovidiannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-36083993635869822822011-10-13T12:41:33.674+01:002011-10-13T12:41:33.674+01:00I like the picture as several of them have what is...I like the picture as several of them have what is known as Hull Facelifts.<br /><br />Aka ponytails.Son of Glumnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-68899872989568987952011-10-13T12:39:41.491+01:002011-10-13T12:39:41.491+01:00"My son came home on Monday and I had to expl..."My son came home on Monday and I had to explain to him what inbred meant."<br /><br />To which he replied, "Is that why I have to call dad 'Uncle Jimmy'?"<br /><br />"No, son, it's why you call Uncle Jimmy, 'Granddad'"Glumnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-1603301966671030382011-10-13T10:57:35.014+01:002011-10-13T10:57:35.014+01:00"My son came home on Monday and I had to expl..."My son came home on Monday and I had to explain to him what inbred meant."<br /><br />This, Ladies & Gentlemen, is what we in the internets call a 'Self Ownership' or, more correctly, a "SELF PWN !!!11LOLOMGWTFBBQROFLCOPTER"SBCnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-77322656783539827782011-10-13T10:50:20.469+01:002011-10-13T10:50:20.469+01:00If there's an award out there for blog titles...If there's an award out there for blog titles, it should be given to JuliaM for life.<br /><br />Never having used facebook, I don't know how this stands as an infringement of privacy; I mean, is it the equivalent of peering through someone's bathroom window while they're having a shower or more like walking past a lit room with open curtains on a dark evening?<br /><br />Either way, since being offended is now a national spectator sport, it doesn't take much to work out that comments this should never be written down. <br /><br />Whether they should be made at all is another matter; there's something disturbing in the comments that suggest teachers should not be allowed freedom to think - and speak - as they like about their charges in their own time.<br /><br />FWIW, in my experience, it is always the parents of badly-behaved and over-indulged pupils who are most vociferous in their objection to any perceived criticism of the child.Macheathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04451439759398780345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-25320229831942508972011-10-13T10:37:32.449+01:002011-10-13T10:37:32.449+01:00"Knee-jerk snobbery..."
Well that's..."Knee-jerk snobbery..."<br /><br />Well that's what happens when teaching posts are all advertised in The Guardian. The left really love the poor. <br /><br />They do. Just ask Baroness Toynbee.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-73374754375590228912011-10-13T10:36:43.824+01:002011-10-13T10:36:43.824+01:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-51980150889180526242011-10-13T10:33:15.396+01:002011-10-13T10:33:15.396+01:00"My son came home on Monday and I had to expl..."My son came home on Monday and I had to explain to him what inbred meant."<br /><br />To which he replied, "Is that why I have to call dad 'Uncle Jimmy'?"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-30874471068751680262011-10-13T09:53:19.662+01:002011-10-13T09:53:19.662+01:00"My son came home on Monday and I had to expl..."My son came home on Monday and I had to explain to him what inbred meant."<br /><br />Bet that stretched the single brain cell to its fullest capacity then luv ..<br /><br />Talk about Munters & Grunters .. ;)Captain Haddocknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-82306809065127570902011-10-13T09:32:33.279+01:002011-10-13T09:32:33.279+01:00"Massive queue of Westcott year 5/6 kids in p..."Massive queue of Westcott year 5/6 kids in poundland! x"<br /><br />So which is it? Knee-jerk snobbery or teachers are paid too much to ever consider shopping at Poundland, unlike an increasing proportion of the population?<br /><br />Of course, the whole thing is a mountain out of a molehill, but the teachers aren't helping their case if they peer disapprovingly down their noses at the poor. <br />And they are kids FFS - when have kids routinely shopped at Harrods?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com