tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post5893910401347011924..comments2024-03-28T18:32:00.146+00:00Comments on Ambush Predator: Progressives In The Firing Line AgainJuliaMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07844126589712842477noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-30897219784646603502009-09-08T19:54:17.537+01:002009-09-08T19:54:17.537+01:00There is a perfectly clear route for ratbags (I wo...There is a perfectly clear route for ratbags (I won't dignify them with the term Mothers) who turn out a steady stream of beaten, abused, neglected and brutalised kids. They are using those bairns as hostages. It's a case of "give me the money and the council house, or the kid will suffer."<br /><br />Those children are going to suffer anyway. <br /><br />I do think that we need to make some radical changes to the welfare system, and the sensible response to a flooded kitchen is to first turn off the tap.<br /><br />Our first priority should be the best interests of the baby. If a single mother, or a two parent family, has no record of self sufficiency, and no realistic prospects of providing a loving and stable home, the baby should be put up for adoption. Exceptions could easily be made for people who are registered disabled, or those recently widowed. And a humane policy could include arrangements for Grandparents to be given priority to adopt if they can demonstrate the necessary financial capacity and track record.<br /><br />It is only by stopping the replenishment of this problem that society will be able to start addressing the toddlers, young children and teenagers who are already on course for disaster. They are already with us, and we need to start doing right by them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-27612908992355528322009-09-08T19:30:25.026+01:002009-09-08T19:30:25.026+01:00"The problem being, ‘turning off the benefit ..."The problem being, ‘turning off the benefit spigot’ would not stop families such as this one existing. They’d find the money to amuse themselves elsewhere – probably by crime."<br /><br />Some would - but others might shift for themselves - their grandparents did.<br /><br />I hope you won't underestimate the power of not giving people free money any more - it's a doozy.North Northwesterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10990919627286136085noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-56944656042071420562009-09-08T18:48:54.889+01:002009-09-08T18:48:54.889+01:00JuliaM,
Posted on this here.JuliaM,<br /><br />Posted on this <a href="http://jerubbaalsvent.blogspot.com/2009/09/social-work-nuclear-option.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>.Tomrathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15442487511149915434noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-5402679997419362852009-09-08T17:00:04.905+01:002009-09-08T17:00:04.905+01:00"If this family were not high risk..."
...<i>"If this family were not high risk..."</i> <br /><br />That's the ghastly thought, isn't it?<br /><br /><i>"It's also good that we all still have space for a little humour and don't get too serious for our own good."</i> <br /><br />Indeed. Hence the need for some musical appreciation occasionally.. ;)<br /><br /><i>"Here, it would appear that the converse applies..."</i> <br /><br />I wonder if that can be <i>just</i> laid to the difference in the welfare system? It'd be interesting to see the authors take a look at the UK in depth.<br /><br /><i>"Remove the cash, and the bad behaviour will reduce."</i> <br /><br />I think it would, but not quickly, and maybe not as much as we'd all hope.<br /><br /><i>"If you want to find where the buck stops for a lot of the problems with Social Work currently, you can start with Ed Balls."</i> <br /><br />Yep, he's been a disaster, no doubt. But I'm not sure any minister from Dave's mob would have the stomach for facing down the interested parties in the SS high command...<br /><br /><i>"Why did the Doncaster kids mum have seven kids if not for benefits and housing?"</i> <br /><br />I suppose it depends on whether she made a calculated decision to have them for those benefits alone, or whether she had such a chaotic lifestyle that she'd have had them <i>anyway</i>, regardless of the benefirs being there to cushion the blow. <br /><br />Certainly, the decision to adopt the 'family must stay together at all cost' approach hasn't done anyone any favours...JuliaMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07844126589712842477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-58475437560143736982009-09-08T12:28:33.020+01:002009-09-08T12:28:33.020+01:00Julia, I don't think you can remove the beneit...Julia, I don't think you can remove the beneits angle.<br /><br />Why did the Doncaster kids mum have seven kids if not for benefits and housing?<br /><br />One of the things that is making these problems exponentially worse is that it's only this bitch, and Karen Matthews who can "afford" to have seven kids; most working and middle class families have two, three at the most.<br /><br />Ultimately what are we going to do with the other 5 potential Doncaster psychopaths? And why isn't the mother in prison?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-79577063049591122722009-09-08T10:58:21.384+01:002009-09-08T10:58:21.384+01:00In defence of Social Workers, the reason they tend...In defence of Social Workers, the reason they tend to be so damned useless is that there are very few experienced ones.<br /><br />People go into it, and get disillusioned by the management, how their hands are tied and how sneaky parents are.<br /><br />Eventually they find jobs with less interference, and leave Social Work.<br /><br />If you want to find where the buck stops for a lot of the problems with Social Work currently, you can start with Ed Balls.Eckersalldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15683974531982922955noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-80766036730943072632009-09-08T10:22:52.346+01:002009-09-08T10:22:52.346+01:00Benefits are what have allowed these situations to...Benefits are what have allowed these situations to arise in the first place. Remove the cash, and the bad behaviour will reduce. It will take years to reach a new equilibrium, but then its been decades in the creation.<br /><br />You cannot micro manage the lives of 10% of the population. Just remove the incentives for bad behaviour, or penalise it.<br /><br />Basically bring back judgementalism.sobersnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-11704622028241869172009-09-08T10:14:31.434+01:002009-09-08T10:14:31.434+01:00This will be controversial, I know, but there is a...This will be controversial, I know, but there is an interesting angle on these issues in Levitt and Dubner's 'Freakonomics'.<br /><br />The authors describe how a predicted juvenile crime wave in the US failed to materialise as a direct result of Roe vs Wade. The relatively free availability of abortion drastically reduced the number of children born into circumstances deemed likely to lead to a life of crime.<br /><br />For the US women involved, the costs (financial, personal and social) of raising a child outweighed the benefits and they acted accordingly.<br /><br />Here, it would appear that the converse applies, with predictable results.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-24665952518866435842009-09-08T09:33:00.343+01:002009-09-08T09:33:00.343+01:00Julia you really have attracted a good group of co...Julia you really have attracted a good group of commentators here. With different opinions sometimes but well informed, open and honest. It is a pleasure and for me anyway a real life line in a prejudice and cruel world. Many thanks for your efforts and generally sensible droogs.<br />It's also good that we all still have space for a little humour and don't get too serious for our own good.Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00594481483171507584noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-70398817525282859432009-09-08T09:25:58.610+01:002009-09-08T09:25:58.610+01:00Excellent post. If this family were not high risk...Excellent post. If this family were not high risk, I cannot imagine the scale of depravity across the UK that social workers don't even acknowledge.Letters From A Toryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14612766550608940053noreply@blogger.com