tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post7525608994563144740..comments2024-03-28T11:27:25.537+00:00Comments on Ambush Predator: Because It Isn't Always An Urban Myth...JuliaMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07844126589712842477noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-24576318859779465062012-04-29T12:20:18.932+01:002012-04-29T12:20:18.932+01:00" With beaurocratic organisations such as thi...<i>" With beaurocratic organisations such as this, responsibility seems to be like water - it tends to find the lowest possible level, which probably means some cleaner would be for the high jump! "</i> <br /><br />Indeed!<br /><br /><i>"Oddly for someone who is supposed to have known they were in the wrong and attempting an abduction, she did not immediately leave, waiting for a while. "</i> <br /><br />Maybe that'll be the learning difficulty referred to? <br /><br />And she was known to the security guards, as James pointed out. I wonder why?<br /><br /><i>"Her view of people with learning difficulties includes the most useful word in the English language, "vulnerable"."</i> <br /><br />It's astonishing how often that crops up. I've just typed it myself, for a post next week!JuliaMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07844126589712842477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-51716852990620372472012-04-28T11:21:41.110+01:002012-04-28T11:21:41.110+01:00@Woman on a Raft - yes, these are fair points, and...@Woman on a Raft - yes, these are fair points, and far more sensible than the views of Jo Barnes.<br /><br />Her view of people with learning difficulties includes the most useful word in the English language, "vulnerable". This has come to mean "needs an army of people like myself to 'help' them, however ineffectually, and carries a get-out-of-jail-free card".James Knoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-16779777661634757792012-04-27T20:31:13.327+01:002012-04-27T20:31:13.327+01:00"those with learning difficulties had the sam..."those with learning difficulties had the same rights to live in the community as anyone else"<br /><br />Yes, they do. Correct. They also have the obligations that come with living in society, and a crime is treated as such.<br /><br />Abduction, or attempted abduction, might well carry a penalty.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-77404197584845885982012-04-27T20:12:44.457+01:002012-04-27T20:12:44.457+01:00The security guards told me they knew her as someo...The security guards told me they knew her as someone with learning difficulties<br /><br />Yep, just like the murderer who asked to be let off because he had a family to look after.James Highamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14525082702330365464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-86076939224180430362012-04-27T17:29:27.690+01:002012-04-27T17:29:27.690+01:00'Jo Barnes ... called for more education about...'<i>Jo Barnes ... called for more education about adults with learning difficulties.</i><br />Sorry, love, but after countless years of 'awareness raising' by parasites like you who make a living by boring the tits off the rest of us about autism, dyslexia, Islamophobia, OCD, Munchausen syndrome by proxy, bi-polar hermaphrodites with Asperger's and all the other real, rare or imagined conditions used as job-creation schemes, the next time I see I see some dribbling half-wit dragging away a screaming kiddy I think I'll just rely on instinct and common-sense, so on balance I'l decline your offer of further taxpayer-funded indoctrination.Trevornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-90921622403349967472012-04-27T16:35:46.252+01:002012-04-27T16:35:46.252+01:00Fair points actually WoaRFair points actually WoaRstaybrytenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-35965329006965874902012-04-27T14:26:09.127+01:002012-04-27T14:26:09.127+01:00Humberside Police confirmed that a 57-year-old wom...<i>Humberside Police confirmed that a 57-year-old woman was arrested and released without charge.</i><br /><br />She didn't get a free pass. She was arrested on slender suspicion of the terrible crime of 'having spoken to a child to whom one is not related'. <br /><br />An aging woman who was reasonably well-known addressed a remark to a 5 year old boy, whose account, via his mother, we are told. Bearing in mind his mother's coaching, it is not clear that this a reliable account of what, precisely, was said or attempted. We do know, however, that he was immediately rewarded with toys. <br /><br />From the report, the circumstances seem to be that the woman was sitting in a cafe in the concourse of a shopping centre and put out her arm, remarking that the child appeared to be without his mother and to come to her. It makes a huge difference to the account if she approached the child or if the child approached where she happened to be sitting. The report is not clear but the more lurid version is given first, but in the second account she is not quite so active. <br /><br />She then put on her jacket on - which seems pretty normal to me rather than being a master of disguise as the mother alleges - when the child shrieked, having been spoken to by a stranger. Oddly for someone who is supposed to have known they were in the wrong and attempting an abduction, she did not immediately leave, waiting for a while. <br /><br />It seems to me that LD or not, it would be very easy to be mistaken about whether the boy was lost and to say something like 'Have you lost your mummy? I'll take you to the security desk'. <br /><br />I must remember the next time I see a child apparently dashing off on its own in to the car park that to say anything or, in an emergency, stopping a toddler running out (as nearly happened last week) may be interpretted as me being a wierdo with malicious intent and arrested.<br /><br />Maybe the woman was released without charge because she hadn't done anything illegal and it didn't happen quite the way the mother is claiming?Woman on a Rafthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08897415591130901416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-64604999938230040562012-04-27T13:04:43.689+01:002012-04-27T13:04:43.689+01:00The lady in question may well be harmless. She may...The lady in question may well be harmless. She may not be. For everybody's sake, including her own, a greater level of supervision is obviously needed.<br /><br />Has it occurred to Jo Barnes what might have happened to this woman had an irate father seen her apparently trying to abduct his young child? Spouting cliches about rights to live in the community won't do.staybrytenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-18477898633093374432012-04-27T12:11:10.362+01:002012-04-27T12:11:10.362+01:00One wonders if Jo Barnes, as the project director ...One wonders if Jo Barnes, as the project director with responsibility for people with learning difficulties forthat Care Trust would accepted any responsibility if the child had been abducted? With beaurocratic organisations such as this, responsibility seems to be like water - it tends to find the lowest possible level, which probably means some cleaner would be for the high jump! If she has responsibility then she should get off her *rse and be responsible.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-9518546575923078952012-04-27T11:50:16.137+01:002012-04-27T11:50:16.137+01:00Jo needs to see what a couple of these special peo...Jo needs to see what a couple of these special people did to a young boy in Adelaide a few year ago. She could have a talk to them .They might anally rape strangle then drown her to make sure she was deadAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com