tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post8091223462818454905..comments2024-03-29T05:21:11.278+00:00Comments on Ambush Predator: Ooooh, I Smell A Compensation Demand!JuliaMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07844126589712842477noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-37737023028160977732012-05-30T20:58:56.933+01:002012-05-30T20:58:56.933+01:00Don't encourage him.He will pretend to be your...Don't encourage him.He will pretend to be your friend and then turn on you as well.Well I think he will as I don't understand half of what he writes.jadedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12598926938795664087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-58251149073533803322012-05-30T20:30:12.970+01:002012-05-30T20:30:12.970+01:00Nice one MelvNice one MelvRanternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-20053670543884515152012-05-30T17:56:03.941+01:002012-05-30T17:56:03.941+01:00Excellent wit, Jaded. You must haul that brain dow...Excellent wit, Jaded. You must haul that brain down to trivia night at your local, taking care not to drop the jar again.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-30099273537153968482012-05-30T17:34:42.897+01:002012-05-30T17:34:42.897+01:00Leave Melvin alone.He is king of the internet (sel...Leave Melvin alone.He is king of the internet (self-proclaimed) and us ordinary PC's are not allowed an opinion.How dare we comment on police-related stories.What do we know?<br />Our knowledge of police work cannot be anything like as good as Melvins.jadedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12598926938795664087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-87210167344595824552012-05-30T14:00:00.669+01:002012-05-30T14:00:00.669+01:00Melvyn, stop being a complete tosser. You can'...Melvyn, stop being a complete tosser. You can't? Oh well, carry on then.Brontosaurusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-6696774191871062512012-05-30T09:06:16.814+01:002012-05-30T09:06:16.814+01:00@ Bentosaurus
Indeed. Police actions are always l...@ Bentosaurus<br /><br />Indeed. Police actions are always legitimate....well, according to the Book of Plod....'he that scribeth unholy accounts of plod wrongdoing be a false prophet and shall suffer stoning'. <br />Please accept our gratitude for that biblical nugget, together with best wishes for a tolerable veisalgia, later today.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-86235267416000570482012-05-30T09:00:25.250+01:002012-05-30T09:00:25.250+01:00Brontosaurus - "Can this child not speak to h...Brontosaurus - "<i>Can this child not speak to her mother for God's sake!</i><br /><br />In this case no and IMHO for the simple fact that the mother is in shock herself and can't be objective about it. It's just common sense.Tattynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-62808058315300645792012-05-30T08:40:43.512+01:002012-05-30T08:40:43.512+01:00Some of your readers are real cretins Julia.
You d...Some of your readers are real cretins Julia.<br />You don't need a warrant to enter premises to save life and property. If you did then you would burn to death in a fire while the police got a warrant before the police or fire brigade rescued you.<br />Knocking on the door and saying 'Hi it'd the police. Anyone got a gun could you put it down and come out please.' Bang!<br />Yes, of course the police are always smashing into peoples houses because we don't like them.<br /><br />Having said there may be more to the story than portrayed.<br />I work on police firearms and you would never just storm into a house where someone may be being held at gunpoint.<br />Ideally, you would make contact by telephone or even loudhailer and get the occupants to come out. You would have to consider evacuating the immediate area and police negotiators would be there. Etc.<br />The original account given to Ms Williams by the police at her house seems more likely. She says she was told that the police were looking for a firearm.<br />A search for a firearm might be done at 0200 when you know the occupants are asleep and are unlikely to have ready access to the weapon. For that, of course, you would need a warrant.<br /><br />On another note, why does everyone need bloody counselling? Can this child not speak to her mother for God's sake!Brontosaurusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-3148455296064153692012-05-30T07:08:33.162+01:002012-05-30T07:08:33.162+01:00"Erm. What the fuck is wrong with "open ...<i>"Erm. What the fuck is wrong with "open up, it's the police"?"</i> <br /><br />Well, John, FT, Blueknight and anon point out the obvious flaw with this approach, don't they?<br /><br /><i>"That said, an apology and full explanation to the mother..."</i> <br /><br />She claims she hasn't had an explanation, but it's clear she has.<br /><br /><i>" There's far too much of this paramilitary shit going on and it needs to stop. No-knock entry is intrinsically dangerous.."</i> <br /><br />Yes, it is, and as you point out, both for the occupants <i>and the police</i> - and I can't believe that in today's famously risk-averse police force, they'd do it without some pretty good intel, rather than just on a tip off.<br /><br /><i>"If there was a person being held at gun point you really dont want to charge in and precipitate things."</i> <br /><br />Exactly! Unless you <i>have</i> to, or unless you think there isn't an immediate threat, and so you can.<br /><br />So clearly, they thought they had to. Or...?JuliaMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07844126589712842477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-65952404769816257972012-05-30T06:16:40.202+01:002012-05-30T06:16:40.202+01:00If you must believe everything you are told at lea...If you must believe everything you are told at least you could do some finding out. <br />If there was a person being held at gun point you really dont want to charge in and precipitate things.<br /> Most police take a watch and wait view. <br />Using electronics ( to see how many people in the house and where) ,and talk etc. <br />Charging up against a gunman can hurt.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-67988706310098355522012-05-30T01:12:23.806+01:002012-05-30T01:12:23.806+01:00If there was really someone being held at gunpoint...If there was really someone being held at gunpoint, then we would want the police to break in. We can't really find the snitch, unless he was calling from his house phone. So maybe there should just be a standard compensation, say £50 + personal apology, for this kind of thing. NHS counselling is free anyway. Then you'd just get for 50 quid and can shut up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-72584104378478411532012-05-29T22:20:38.175+01:002012-05-29T22:20:38.175+01:00This comment has been removed by the author.blueknighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18409655604657713593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-31348831032448091912012-05-29T22:20:03.997+01:002012-05-29T22:20:03.997+01:00Erm. What the fuck is wrong with "open up, it...Erm. What the fuck is wrong with "open up, it's the police"?<br /><br />"open up it's the .. *bang*" Think Raoul Moat<br /><br />police haven't got a clue, charging into people's homes without a warrant.. <br />It was just before 2am. So they go back to the nick, draw a blank warrant from the safe, wake up the Supt who authorises it, wakes up the Magistrate to sign it and the Court Clerk to give legal assistance, unless the Magistrate is a Stipe. Shouldn't take more than an hour or two....blueknighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18409655604657713593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-47308488218635742122012-05-29T21:36:14.946+01:002012-05-29T21:36:14.946+01:00This tactic of calling in a tip-off about a murder...This tactic of calling in a tip-off about a murder or hostage situation is called 'SWATting' in the States and it is going to get someone killed. There's far too much of this paramilitary shit going on and it needs to stop. No-knock entry is intrinsically dangerous, both for the occupants and the police. If it is ever found out who was behind this hoax then very serious punishment is in order.David Gilliesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-44650808026240375632012-05-29T18:32:55.581+01:002012-05-29T18:32:55.581+01:00If she does end up suing the police-on the face of...If she does end up suing the police-on the face of it a strong claim-then in a civil case all the evidence will come out.<br />Might be a slightly different story then.<br />Damned if you do etc...jadedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12598926938795664087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-84450102100858549412012-05-29T18:24:10.626+01:002012-05-29T18:24:10.626+01:00NHINHIAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-74208174763035303982012-05-29T17:05:55.962+01:002012-05-29T17:05:55.962+01:00XX Or should the police be held to account and be ...XX Or should the police be held to account and be obliged to treat people with a little bit of fucking respect? XX<br /><br />Quite. Next time let the stupid cow get shot. Who fucking cares?<br /><br />Police should be out doing REAL work, like booking arsehole drivers on double yellow lines.Furor Teutonicushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13856575077967523322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-14046120179847312332012-05-29T16:55:07.318+01:002012-05-29T16:55:07.318+01:00Bungling fucking police haven't got a clue, ch...Bungling fucking police haven't got a clue, charging into people's homes without a warrant, on the arse end of some half lie, outrageous. What is it you want, a fucking police state, like the Stasi? Or should the police be held to account and be obliged to treat people with a little bit of fucking respect?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-52808992520213647242012-05-29T16:39:08.889+01:002012-05-29T16:39:08.889+01:00Mein Furor,
Wer ist das? Schwarzaffen through das...Mein Furor,<br /><br />Wer ist das? Schwarzaffen through das hole ver die door vos kommen! Qvick, gulpen down das Schwerindustrie strength drain kleener.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-11134006693914447562012-05-29T16:06:41.918+01:002012-05-29T16:06:41.918+01:00XX tip-off that a woman was being held at gun-poin...XX tip-off that a woman was being held at gun-point. XX<br /><br />Seems like a fucking good enough reason to me, to kick the door down and make a storm entry.<br /><br />Or would you lot only be happy when the family actualy WERE been held by someone with a gun, who shot them as Mr Plod was asking nicely if any one would mind terribly if the just came in for a look around?<br /><br />Give you all a fucking good reason to blame the police for something else then, wouldn't it?Furor Teutonicushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13856575077967523322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-19520498807666918632012-05-29T15:31:59.808+01:002012-05-29T15:31:59.808+01:00Clearly more to this story than is being accepted ...Clearly more to this story than is being accepted by commenters on here. <br /><br />Even the Commentards on the CROYDON guardian don't have much sympathy.<br /><br />It is CROYDON and the 'victims' are from a community where gun crime is endemic. None of us here know the nature of the initial call to police nor the various checks that would have been gone through before the deployment of armed officers. <br /><br />There will be a reason for the police action and I doubt it for the reasons many of the tin-foil hat brigade have enjoyed posting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-44377608905356614932012-05-29T14:10:27.945+01:002012-05-29T14:10:27.945+01:00Charmaine was part of that singing duo who APPEARE...Charmaine was part of that singing duo who APPEARED ON t.v during the Glasgow auditions on Britains Got talent.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-65786056654413792352012-05-29T13:51:38.273+01:002012-05-29T13:51:38.273+01:00"Ooooh, I smell a legal excuse (insert operat..."Ooooh, I smell a legal excuse (insert operational choice)for..."<br /><br />a)breaking into any English home when there is insufficient evidence for a search warrant.<br />b)'finding' a gun on premises.<br />c)harassing any citizen disliked by police.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-81305818215133598362012-05-29T13:34:29.836+01:002012-05-29T13:34:29.836+01:00I'm with the mother on this one those little g...I'm with the mother on this one those little girls would have been scared out of their wits. That said, an apology and full explanation to the mother and some counselling for the girls to come to terms with it would be right and proper.<br /><br />Money won't do a damn thing.Tattynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-9225201006839625332012-05-29T12:49:55.467+01:002012-05-29T12:49:55.467+01:00Plod made a robocop type ballsup and I hope they g...Plod made a robocop type ballsup and I hope they get sued to fuck.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com