tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post1576455150301898360..comments2024-03-28T18:32:00.146+00:00Comments on Ambush Predator: Bradford: Twinned With, Well, Any Police State From History...JuliaMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07844126589712842477noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-22843292190958857562011-01-08T06:57:53.412+00:002011-01-08T06:57:53.412+00:00"Where were these valiant Vice Cops when some...<i>"Where were these valiant Vice Cops when some nutter was wandering around with a crossbow??? "</i> <br /><br />Good question. But as Pavlov's Cat points out above, their priorities aren't necessarily what we think they ought to be...JuliaMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07844126589712842477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-27514548038769918062011-01-08T06:56:29.411+00:002011-01-08T06:56:29.411+00:00"If you really want an area to slide downhill...<i>"If you really want an area to slide downhill even further that seems as good a way as any."</i> <br /><br />Good point.<br /><br /><i>"This is about as far from good policing as you can get..."</i> <br /><br />It's as far from Peelian principles as you can get, yes. But sadly, these days, it probably DOES count as 'good policing' i.e. focussing on chosen 'victim groups'...<br /><br /><i>"Off topic, but another rare event happened"</i> <br /><br />I think the link didn't come through - I get a 'Are you looking for any of the following?' error :(<br /><br /><i>"God, did I get an earful."</i><br /><br />SNORK!JuliaMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07844126589712842477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-55699254353681400922011-01-08T06:53:05.662+00:002011-01-08T06:53:05.662+00:00"...could he sue the police?"
Doubtful...<i>"...could he sue the police?"</i> <br /><br />Doubtful. What would he sue them for?<br /><br /><i>"Whenever I see the word 'Bradford' I pause to wonder if there is something else going on, something we can't talk about. <br /><br />The other story which the Times is now running - and the BBC is largely ignoring - about sex gangs targetting young girls."</i> <br /><br />Yes, and now Jack Straw's opened his mouth, their silence is going to be even more noticeable...<br /><br /><i>"And when the funeral director opens the envelope he goes ballistic...."</i> <br /><br />:D<br /><br /><i>"...if the police can't recognise that they shouldn't have anything more responsible to do than flipping burgers at Maccy D's."</i><br /><br />I think we have to realise that the police no longer wish to operate with the acceptance and help of the public; they are now 'above' that.JuliaMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07844126589712842477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-71766344291812504402011-01-08T03:12:01.067+00:002011-01-08T03:12:01.067+00:00Where were these valiant Vice Cops when some nutte...Where were these valiant Vice Cops when some nutter was wandering around with a crossbow??? <br /><br />Speaking of the Figthing Cock...I've been stopped in broad day light, on a Saturday afternoon walking from the pub to Valley Parade...where do they find these wastes of oxygen???Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-74267203933449613592011-01-07T20:24:03.380+00:002011-01-07T20:24:03.380+00:00@ Rob - that sounds very much like Section 44 bein...@ Rob - that sounds very much like Section 44 being used to stop people taking photographs....microdavenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-51595772721230441192011-01-07T20:13:43.790+00:002011-01-07T20:13:43.790+00:00"There's no way to rule innocent men. The...<b> "There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced nor objectively interpreted and you create a nation of law-breakers."<br /><br />Ayn Rand - Atlas Shrugged<br /><br />"The best political weapon is the weapon of terror. Cruelty commands respect. Men may hate us. But, we don't ask for their love; only for their fear. "<br /><br />Heinrich Himmler <br /><br />"We make no apology for the robust way in that we tackle the issue of kerb crawling in Bradford.!<br /><br />Supt Angela Williams </b>Pavlov's Cathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15162563403722211352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-7694390942598942912011-01-07T19:59:15.397+00:002011-01-07T19:59:15.397+00:00This comment has been removed by the author.Pavlov's Cathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15162563403722211352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-67010890253627836442011-01-07T18:16:26.905+00:002011-01-07T18:16:26.905+00:00The toms used to hang around Manningham Lane until...The toms used to hang around Manningham Lane until the Men of No Appearance sent them packing. Then they started infesting the streets round Bradford Uni where I used to work. I was strolling down the road to get a post-work snifter in the Fighting Cocks (hah!) when this raddled old trollop staggers out of a doorway. "Fancy a shag?" shouts the apparition. "How much?" says I. "Fifty quid." "OK," I reply, "but I want the money up front!" God, did I get an earful.<br /><br />I'd probably have been done for solicitation these days.David Gilliesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-26824850519059660182011-01-07T17:40:20.025+00:002011-01-07T17:40:20.025+00:00Thankfully, I am not a lawyer - but it occurs to m...Thankfully, I am not a lawyer - but it occurs to me that there might be grounds for a libel case or, if not, defamation.<br /><br />We need an A.P. Herbert.Uncle Badgernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-25230582297940091742011-01-07T15:02:29.279+00:002011-01-07T15:02:29.279+00:00Off topic, but another rare event happened
http:/...Off topic, but another rare event happened<br /><br />http://www.gmp.police.uk/mainsite/pages/D9C284C2D3E5A839802578110051439DMrs Erdleighnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-10482673612671905132011-01-07T14:52:41.705+00:002011-01-07T14:52:41.705+00:00So, are these red light areas clearly marked as su...So, are these red light areas clearly marked as such? If not, you have areas of the city where you can be smeared as a pervert by the police and not have the slightest idea why.<br /><br />This is about as far from good policing as you can get - arbitrary persecution based on NO LAW for simply being in an area which is not defined and the significance of which you are likely to be unaware of.<br /><br />Still, the victims are overwhelmingly male so no-one who matters gives a fuckRobnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-67275450160786531102011-01-07T13:02:31.287+00:002011-01-07T13:02:31.287+00:00I wonder what would have happened had she been wea...I wonder what would have happened had she been wearing a bin bag attending a sing along at the local mosque?Furor Teutonicushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13856575077967523322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-69127054003597055752011-01-07T12:14:53.633+00:002011-01-07T12:14:53.633+00:00Apart from the horrifying police state aspect, if ...Apart from the horrifying police state aspect, if the local council aren't outraged by this on behalf of their council tax payers then they should be. There will be legitimate residents and businesses in the area who now find themselves in a no-go zone for anyone who values their reputation or job. If you really want an area to slide downhill even further that seems as good a way as any.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-5276844498172375932011-01-07T11:38:48.120+00:002011-01-07T11:38:48.120+00:00These last two stories paint a very familiar pictu...These last two stories paint a very familiar picture of police priorities.<br /><br />On one hand we have the police seemingly paying no interest to real crime, in this case mass theft by well organised criminal gangs. On the other, we have people going about their lawful business being harressed and threatened to the extent they could easily lose their jobs.<br /><br />Let's say the person stopped had been a man employed in a job requiring these ludicrious CRB checks. He would be unemployable instantly.<br /><br />Of course the police would be making no apology then either...Jiksnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-45115181301975303432011-01-07T11:34:05.933+00:002011-01-07T11:34:05.933+00:00The arrogance is astounding, you're right Juli...The arrogance is astounding, you're right Julia. The scope for harm to the lives of innocent citizens is huge, if the police can't recognise that they shouldn't have anything more responsible to do than flipping burgers at Maccy D's.Dick Puddlecotehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01481866882188932892noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-32135738889461987162011-01-07T11:26:42.073+00:002011-01-07T11:26:42.073+00:00Whenever I see the word 'Bradford' I pause...Whenever I see the word 'Bradford' I pause to wonder if there is something else going on, something we can't talk about. <br /><br />The other story which the Times is now running - and the BBC is largely ignoring - about sex gangs targetting young girls. It is possible some of them cruise along looking for pick-ups.<br /><br />It would be discriminatory to look at the driver to note that they are in fact a lady and to check - whch anyone is entitled to do - exactly what goes on in the Rebecca Street Gospel Hall. <br /><br /><i>But it wouldn't be discriminatory if everybody got a letter, including the Catholic ladies of the church Am Dram group. </i><br /><br />I can't think of any way for a police officer to explain this and yet stay in their job. <br /><br />However, part of me longs for a comedy angle and for them to send a letter about large dark company cars, several of which were filled with men, crawling along the Bradford streets, some of them in residential areas. And when the funeral director opens the envelope he goes ballistic....Woman on a Rafthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08897415591130901416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-30315816246789850952011-01-07T11:07:28.587+00:002011-01-07T11:07:28.587+00:00Just out of interest.
If such a thing were to happ...Just out of interest.<br />If such a thing were to happen to a male visitor to the rehearsal, who might even ask directions of a pedestrian, and such a leter to his employer affected his career could he sue the police?Woodsy42https://www.blogger.com/profile/12355671210161625647noreply@blogger.com