tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post1590334157013771289..comments2024-03-29T11:13:00.338+00:00Comments on Ambush Predator: Depressingly Familiar Words...JuliaMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07844126589712842477noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-67478227926646835212013-10-07T06:44:05.801+01:002013-10-07T06:44:05.801+01:00"How about iphones as a reward for voluntary ...<i>"How about iphones as a reward for voluntary sterilisation?"</i> <br /><br />Well, I think Furor has a much cheaper option... ;)<br />JuliaMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07844126589712842477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-28973964524997551522013-10-07T06:43:08.330+01:002013-10-07T06:43:08.330+01:00"The real solution is not to enable people to...<i>"The real solution is not to enable people to live lives of such disfunction by giving them all free cash to do so. "</i> <br /><br />Totally agree, but that's a long-term solution, and we are where we are NOW. There's more Keanus out there.<br /><br />More than we care to imagine.<br /><br /><i>"Now Birmingham is broke, as Jim says we are subsidising poor standards of behaviour with what little we have left to pay for it."</i> <br /><br /><i>Is</i> Birmingham really broke? I bet it isn't.<br /><br /><i>"But for that to work, we all need to accept that tragedy does happen (even to kids) and that we simply cannot prevent it all..."</i> <br /><br />I'm happy to accept that 100% success rate isn't possible...<br /><br />...but (and it's a huge but, the size of Diane Abbott's) these cases are so glaringly obviously abuse - or the potential for same - that if they can't get these ones right, what <i>can</i> they do? JuliaMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07844126589712842477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-36123215532101371802013-10-05T20:58:44.997+01:002013-10-05T20:58:44.997+01:00XX How about iphones as a reward for voluntary ste...XX How about iphones as a reward for voluntary sterilisation? XX<br /><br />Na. They are chavs. Six bottles of white lightning will suffice.Furor Teutonicushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13856575077967523322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-39012554987975524182013-10-05T15:23:32.507+01:002013-10-05T15:23:32.507+01:00If we stopped subsidising breeding, there would be...If we stopped subsidising breeding, there would be fewer desperate little tots for the social services to notice so maybe we could whittle down their numbers so only the intelligent and dedicated remain. However feckless and drugaddled the mother may be, it would be worth the hassle of contraception or abortion to avoid responsibility. How about iphones as a reward for voluntary sterilisation?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-81720631490338550372013-10-05T15:10:53.143+01:002013-10-05T15:10:53.143+01:00Strangely enough if you subsidise bad behaviour yo...<i>Strangely enough if you subsidise bad behaviour you'll probably get more of it, not less.</i><br /><br />Well said Jim and perfectly echoing a comment I've just made on a post above.<br /><br />We do expect too much of social workers. Perhaps if their remit was more tightly focussed - instead of being dictated by the mob/media - they'd have more success? But for that to work, we all need to accept that tragedy does happen (even to kids) and that we simply cannot prevent it all... heartless as that sounds, its the real world out there no some utopia no matter how much the lefty liberals wish it to be.<br /><br />John Pickworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02166443099429490782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-43206616184719064662013-10-05T10:37:42.103+01:002013-10-05T10:37:42.103+01:00Bunny
What Jim said, one of the comments under th...Bunny<br /><br />What Jim said, one of the comments under the article in the Independent stated that Birmingham is nigh on bankrupt as a city. I was reading that in the 40/50s the government, one that believed in central planning (Labour) saw that Birmingham was being very successful and its success was a threat to the other cities around it. So it persuaded the great and the good of Birmingham to move some of its industry of out the city and relocate to help other areas around it. This failed and wrecked Birmingham and the transplanted industries failed due to disruption. Now Birmingham is broke, as Jim says we are subsidising poor standards of behaviour with what little we have left to pay for it. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-4222237332740202392013-10-05T10:13:23.773+01:002013-10-05T10:13:23.773+01:00I know its not a popular view, but I do feel some ...I know its not a popular view, but I do feel some sympathy for social workers. Yes there are obviously plenty of useless pieces of sh*t who should have been drummed out of the office within a month of starting work. That I accept, and it should happen a lot more than it does now.<br /><br />But the task facing the honest decent ones is biblical in the decision making required. If they take too many kids away from parents they are destroying families, many for no reason, if they don't take a kid away and one dies as a result then they're spread all over the papers as having failed. Basically social workers have to be able to predict the future correctly 100% of the time. This kid will be OK if left with its mother, this one won't. Its not a do-able scenario really.<br /><br />For example, as in this case, if social workers removed kids from all mothers who move addresses and change partners frequently then there'd be a heck of a lot more kids in care, most of which didn't need to be there, and were suffering worse care than being left with the mother.<br /><br />The real solution is not to enable people to live lives of such disfunction by giving them all free cash to do so. Strangely enough if you subsidise bad behaviour you'll probably get more of it, not less.Jimnoreply@blogger.com