tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post2191528940255282145..comments2024-03-28T18:32:00.146+00:00Comments on Ambush Predator: Call The Whaaaaambulance!JuliaMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07844126589712842477noreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-42662884255691985622012-10-31T14:05:24.996+00:002012-10-31T14:05:24.996+00:00How many times?
In England and Wales and in Scot...How many times? <br /><br />In England and Wales and in Scotland, "Asians" mean SOUTH Asians – Indians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis, Nepalis, Sri Lankans and Maldivians. Chinese are just Chinese, or EAST Asians (with at least two capital letters), if you must, but never "east Asians", unless you were a dyslexic. <br /><br />Why do some of us Chinese feel the need to basically steal the name off from the Hindus, the Sikhs and the Muslims? Do most of us in the Chinese community consider them to be of the same ethnic group? No! Sad to say, but most of our parents and grandparents certainly hate them. Either they are Asians, or we are Asians, but NOT BOTH at the same time. <br /><br />This is England – use BRITISH English, not Chinese English, American, Canadian, Australian or Kiwi. Well, if you still want to talk or write American (in England) and REFUSE to "speak British" after all these years, .... Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-4924093075987562312012-10-31T04:15:20.169+00:002012-10-31T04:15:20.169+00:00I think you would find that Helena Bonham Carter i...I think you would find that Helena Bonham Carter is Jewish enough to get a visa to live in Israel, or perhaps an Israeli passport without even having to live in there for a while. She is only not a Jew, or Jewess, because she does not go to an Orthodox (official in Israel) synagogue (Jewish temple). <br /><br />Unless you were an American, the raiding usually took place on the coast of the WEST Country, not "the South Coast", and good luck with finding 'enoouf folk who speeik, or who caan speeik, diaaleect! People from London such as Anna Chen did not really help by driving the local and native folk out of the local housing market! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-89739481849309426092012-10-30T21:16:05.163+00:002012-10-30T21:16:05.163+00:00Anna's a pretty, articulate girl who's loo...Anna's a pretty, articulate girl who's looking for a TV or radio gig. She's already made a few R4 appearances. <br /><br />A girl's got to eat, and if guilt-tripping whitey is the shortest route to what she wants, why not take it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-81797552179884591602012-10-29T15:13:31.172+00:002012-10-29T15:13:31.172+00:00You cannot cast a play only on grounds of race, yo...You cannot cast a play only on grounds of race, you have to cast on talent.<br /><br />If there isn't a big enough pool of talent in as in this example a play featuring east Asians, then talent of other groups will be cast.<br /><br />There are few Jewish actors for example (UK Jewish population is I believe less than those of Chinese extraction) to play all the parts featuring Jews, so non Jews eg Helena Bonham Carter get cast in roles. There's no rioting in Golders Green when that happens.<br /><br />I can think of a good role for Islamic actors, a drama based on the slave raids by Islamic nations on the south coast of England. I wonder if the BBC would be up for making such a drama.farenheit211http://farenheit211.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-31030200146905784742012-10-29T12:52:41.956+00:002012-10-29T12:52:41.956+00:00"... wasn't there a fairly good cop show ...<i>"... wasn't there a fairly good cop show called 'The Chinese Detective' once?"</i><br /><br />Indeed, starring David Yip who, co-incidentally, was doing <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01nkwxf" rel="nofollow">the Radio 4 book reading</a> this morning in a sort of mock Chinese accent.<br /><br />So there <i>is</i> work for Chinese actors in the UK (or half-Chinese in Mr Yip's case).Edwin Greenwoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03639193560457674072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-91713219871773735562012-10-29T10:27:53.727+00:002012-10-29T10:27:53.727+00:00Err, Nick, most tea we drink nowadays is Indian an...Err, Nick, most tea we drink nowadays is Indian and has been for about 120 years. I watched that Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon too, and you're right, it is a pisstake as there is neither a Tiger nor a Dragon in it, nor any other sort of cat. Probably some sort of inscrutable metaphor or something oriental like that.<br />Being (moderately) serious for a minute, wasn't there a fairly good cop show called 'The Chinese Detective' once?Robert the Bikernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-27229381063185616882012-10-29T09:49:59.696+00:002012-10-29T09:49:59.696+00:00(a) Chinese cinema is enormous. They even made a m...(a) Chinese cinema is enormous. They even made a movie about my cat called crouching tiger, hidden something. It didn't mention him puking a furball under my bed as I was having sex with my wife. At times Timmy makes a Methodist gym Mistress appear like a Rio beach babe.<br /><br />(b)it's everywhere. Get a Sky subscription!<br /><br />(c)I ate Chinese food last night cooked by Chinese people. And I don't even live in Manchester, let alone London. I couldn't afford Soho but the Chinese manage (fair play!) So get over yourself already!. <br /><br />Basically Chinese culture has been an intrinsic part of our culture since God knows when. We drink tea of course only from the tea-mines of Yorkshire...<br /><br />PS. Timmy is the cat, not my wife. Now if my wife had hairballs and was called "Timmy" there would be a story. But the Chinese not being a cultural force... That is pathetic. <br /><br />Most populous nation, 2nd biggest economy and all...NickMhttp://www.countingcts.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-14507735411139461832012-10-29T04:27:58.594+00:002012-10-29T04:27:58.594+00:00what is this bloody chink moaning about?
She shou...what is this bloody chink moaning about?<br /><br />She should get back to serving fish and chips in Daddys take away.Furor Teutonicushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13856575077967523322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-79070404058673867292012-10-28T18:27:45.015+00:002012-10-28T18:27:45.015+00:00"This situation would cause an outcry were it...<i>"This situation would cause an outcry were it an African play.."</i> <br /><br />Yes, and Edwin's pointed out who'd be doing the outcrying!<br /><br /><i>"Funny, it always goes one way. Afro-Caribbeans in Merlin (how many in 5th century Britain?) Robin Hood..."</i> <br /><br />That Benetton ad policy again!<br /><br /><i>"No doubt you consider yourself to be the voice of reason on this matter..."</i> <br /><br />Oh, come, come, Oliver! Hardly on <i>just</i> this matter... ;)JuliaMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07844126589712842477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-21883280085280208222012-10-28T18:24:49.806+00:002012-10-28T18:24:49.806+00:00"Ah, this must be topic of the week at CiF, t...<i>"Ah, this must be topic of the week at CiF, then."</i> <br /><br />I'm pretty sure, as I was reading it, I'd seen a few articles last year on the same subject. I suspect it's one the Guardian likes to trot out regularly.<br /><br /><i>"..and short sighted if we're often then portraying its inhabitants as kamikaze pilots, crazed emperors or kung fu kicking Bond villians etc. "</i> <br /><br />I can think of a few roles - there's a doctor in 'Holby', for instance. <br /><br />But surely the goal should be to represent the British population, rather than have a lineup that looks like a Benetton ad? <br /><br /><i>"If the RSC was able to get Denzel Washington play Hamlet, or Morgan Freeman to play Richrd III, the likes of Anna Chen would be all afflutter, praising the RSC for such groundbreaking and innovative casting."</i> <br /><br />Indeed!JuliaMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07844126589712842477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-84277909809072743972012-10-28T17:06:13.196+00:002012-10-28T17:06:13.196+00:00Oh Oliver dear? Do fuck off you sad little cunt! ...Oh Oliver dear? Do fuck off you sad little cunt! The Daily Mail 'insult' is the refuge of an immature student lefty twat or a BBC funded 'comedian' e.g. Marcus BrigstockeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-90200961169078991822012-10-28T13:33:57.126+00:002012-10-28T13:33:57.126+00:00Julia calls it as she sees it. Not quite sure why ...Julia calls it as she sees it. Not quite sure why that brings the 'Daily Mail' accusation, unless that's the worst insult you can come up with ( which says rather more about you than it does of Julia).<br /><br />You do at least demonstrate a spectacular hauteur, which one can only expect of a Guardianista. You make Lord Grantham sound egalitarian.Dr Cromartynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-26196210441958190182012-10-28T13:15:38.907+00:002012-10-28T13:15:38.907+00:00Amusingly ironic that you accuse Anna Chen of '...Amusingly ironic that you accuse Anna Chen of 'pouting and whining'.<br /><br />No doubt you consider yourself to be the voice of reason on this matter but the number of frothing racists you've managed to attract should definitely be cause for concern (not to mention your own racist views - though no doubt you consider yourself not to be racist or perhaps you do but wisely choose to keep the worst of those thoughts to yourself).<br /><br />Other than that you just come across as a Daily Mail commenter who has somehow managed set up a blog. I suppose for that at least you should be congratulated.Olivernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-64591701200429779962012-10-28T12:35:23.176+00:002012-10-28T12:35:23.176+00:00I dunno - they all look the same to me!
You can n...I dunno - they all look the same to me!<br /><br />You can never tell what the little fuckers are thinking can you!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-60127508051877134002012-10-28T11:58:45.938+00:002012-10-28T11:58:45.938+00:00Funny, it always goes one way. Afro-Caribbeans in ...Funny, it always goes one way. Afro-Caribbeans in Merlin (how many in 5th century Britain?) Robin Hood and playing 19th century industrialists in the Olympic opening ceremony. Do you think a white actor would have got the part of Kunta Kinte or Chicken George in 'Roots'?Dr Cromartynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-14972408731852313632012-10-28T10:50:35.035+00:002012-10-28T10:50:35.035+00:00"This situation would cause an outcry were it..."<i>This situation would cause an outcry were it an African play...</i>"<br /><br />An outcry from whom? Black actors and their White Liberal hangers-on, I should imagine, not the "incoherent snarkists" who are posting here.<br /><br />Characters who are non-White in general and East Asian in particular are relatively infrequent in British drama. This is, after all, historically an almost exclusively White country and even now remains majority White.<br /><br />I agree that this puts Chinese-heritage actors in something of a Catch-22 position. There are relatively few roles for which their appearance naturally qualifies them, therefore they have little opportunity to build the experience needed for when those rare East Asian roles <i>do</i> crop up.<br /><br />The victimism lies in asserting that this is a denial of equality that requires affirmative correction rather than a simple fact of life.<br /><br />The East Asian community in the UK is hardly "marginalized". It has no right to expect that the UK rearrange its culture around the community's needs or aspirations. What are we to do, reshape the dramatic repertoire to proportionalize the character demographics? The shortage of roles in mainstream drama for South Asian phocomelic dwarves is a disgraceful denial of opportunity, I tell you!Edwin Greenwoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03639193560457674072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-20181611003431679512012-10-28T07:21:43.136+00:002012-10-28T07:21:43.136+00:00Funnily enough I HAVE seen white Chinese Opera per...Funnily enough I HAVE seen white Chinese Opera performers and only last night saw a Chinese orchestra featuring caucasian instruments. <br /><br />bobs is absolutely right. If there were white people in HK who were fluent in Cantonese and could do kung fu I bet they'd be in the movies. <br /><br />Singapore has a healthy English language theatre scene that features Chinese, Malay, Indian, Eurasian, Filipina and (yes) caucasian actors liberally sprinkled around.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-8844993042198710302012-10-28T07:16:46.077+00:002012-10-28T07:16:46.077+00:00How many whiteys are born and bred in China/HK/Ind...How many whiteys are born and bred in China/HK/India and train in kung fu or Indian dance, are fluent in Mandarin or Cantonese or Hindi, and actively puruse a career in those markets?bobsyourunclenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-5271461431488387562012-10-28T07:10:20.766+00:002012-10-28T07:10:20.766+00:00Some staggeringly incoherent bursts of snark above...Some staggeringly incoherent bursts of snark above that absolutely fail to engage in the the actual issue which is one of equal opportunities. This situation would cause an outcry were it an African play that was being produced but East Asians are forever sidelined in British media. <br /><br />As the play is in repertoire with two others no one expects a fully East Asian cast (though that would be nice!) but to have no East Asian actors in major roles is really very poor and a blatant denial of opportunities to the most marginalised ethnic minority in Britain. The RSC rightly cites its impressive track record with diversity but this only applies to black and (South) Asian actors it seems as their choices in this instance are conservative and unadventurous. To say you choose the “best actor for the role” is disingenuous to say the least. When some of the actors are ones you’ve worked with before and have just come from West End runs or from popular TV series there is an element of “pedigree” that comes into play. East Asians simply cannot get the opportunities to build a career in mainstream British theatre. <br /><br />It's not "victimhood" to expect equality. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-90082659506016749162012-10-28T01:43:34.569+00:002012-10-28T01:43:34.569+00:00If the RSC was able to get Denzel Washington play ...If the RSC was able to get Denzel Washington play Hamlet, or Morgan Freeman to play Richrd III, the likes of Anna Chen would be all afflutter, praising the RSC for such groundbreaking and innovative casting.DaveTacomaWAnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-10281189962019862252012-10-27T18:16:00.993+01:002012-10-27T18:16:00.993+01:00I hope Chinese and other proper Asians don't s...I hope Chinese and other proper Asians don't start with this grievance mullarkey, or they can all piss off back as well.Noggin the Noghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00832797109847815030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-34144189330211598002012-10-27T18:11:38.138+01:002012-10-27T18:11:38.138+01:00This comment has been removed by the author.Noggin the Noghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00832797109847815030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-29670362161803199122012-10-27T18:08:24.128+01:002012-10-27T18:08:24.128+01:00This comment has been removed by the author.Noggin the Noghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00832797109847815030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-23996386903971481702012-10-27T16:51:53.234+01:002012-10-27T16:51:53.234+01:00Interesting. I was just thinking the same thing ab...Interesting. I was just thinking the same thing about the lack of white western folk in 我们约会吧Buckohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03169970711606515445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-13848306287647616312012-10-27T15:12:49.716+01:002012-10-27T15:12:49.716+01:00Er, it is "a play". In which people &quo...Er, it is "a play". In which people "act". <br /><br />Now, if it were being advertised as "a scrupulously accurate documentary reconstruction of actual events" .... then I might say "well the casting sure brings that 'scrupulously accurate' claim into question.<br /><br />However, I'd also side with JP at 12:57, about the "forever playing cultural stereotypes" angle. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com