tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post286773508024713644..comments2024-03-28T11:27:25.537+00:00Comments on Ambush Predator: Parliament Square Returns To The Peopleā¦JuliaMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07844126589712842477noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-80283646034404802372010-07-23T01:10:02.827+01:002010-07-23T01:10:02.827+01:00"With freedom comes responsibility." Ele..."With freedom comes responsibility." Eleanor Roosevelt said. This shower may wish to exercise the freedoms that living in a democracy (or what passes for one these days), but they are not responsible, either for themselves - scroungers and DHSS drones for the most part I'll warrant, or for the place they are occupying - if its left like a shit hole who cares? Someone else (the tax payer) will sort it out, nor are they responsible enough to understand that their actions put a dent in the freedoms of the rest of us, because, taking the example the peace protestor Brian Haw, the Government eventually get fed up with people like him and enact legislation to restrict him... and the rest of us at the same time. (Sections 132-138 Serious Organised Crime and Police Act 2005). Haw may have a valid point and a genuine point of view but its time he packed it in. His original reason for being there has been overtaken by events. The other lot should be genuinely ashamed of desecrating such a place. Trouble is, they are not... which makes the rest of us angry. The price of democracy is that we must allow people to protest, or we all lose something precious - freedom. The last Labour government passed more legislation than any administration since the beginning of time, or at least at twice the rate of the previous Conservative administration.. A serious case of 'bannitis'. We are all the losers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-30415721764961911292010-07-22T05:29:45.800+01:002010-07-22T05:29:45.800+01:00"I'm not a big fan of a load of smelly la...<i>"I'm not a big fan of a load of smelly layabouts setting up camp in the middle of a busy city, but it IS a public area."</i> <br /><br />But as others have pointed out, public areras are not without rules. Not are they intended for permanent occupation.<br /><br /><i>"What my old Police Chief would have called a 'shower of shit.'"</i><br /><br />It smelt like it, that's for sure! I'm sorry I went on a hot day...JuliaMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07844126589712842477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-12871723176179673072010-07-21T23:10:46.990+01:002010-07-21T23:10:46.990+01:00What my old Police Chief would have called a '...What my old Police Chief would have called a 'shower of shit.'blueknighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18409655604657713593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-69989603692898990062010-07-21T15:57:25.933+01:002010-07-21T15:57:25.933+01:00"He is said to believe that the inhabitants o...<i>"He is said to believe that the inhabitants of Democracy Village are agents of the state, whose only purpose is to have him evicted from the patch of pavement where he has been protesting against the Iraq war since 2001."<br /><br />"Brian, your tinfoil hat is ready, do come in for your fittingā¦"</i><br /><br />Oh, yes, tinfoil hattery of the highest quality. Now if he'd said 'useful idiots' he might have been on to something.Angry Exilehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02491082312193274360noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-20056788527106941052010-07-21T13:10:56.292+01:002010-07-21T13:10:56.292+01:00"Public Space" as in "for the use o..."Public Space" as in "for the use of the public"? Effectively I (along with many others) have been prevented from enjoying - let alone using - the public space outside the Houses of Parliament. "Public Space" is not there to be hijacked by any load of rabble, be they "peace protesters", "travellers" or not-rabble like the Countryside Alliance who, if memory serves, demonstrated outside Parliament and then went home.<br /><br />"Freedom" is not licence to do anything you want: the rabble now being removed from Parliament Square were quite entitled to demonstrate. However, as a blogger (who exactly, I cannot remember) wrote about Brian Haws when he was recently removed "we've heard you Brian - now f*** off". That's all he was entitled to: to be heard: not to camp in the street for years and sound off loudly and at length on the Iraq War (creating a nuisance to the general public who wanted to use the public space available to it).<br /><br />Simlarly, some nutter used to walk up and down Oxford Street spouting religious crapola through a loud-hailer until he was stopped because he was committing a legal nuisance. The objection was not the crapola but the fact that his <i>amplified</i> insistence on getting his message across interfered with the right of the public to use and enjoy the public space of Oxford Street without being upset by excessive noise. He was quite entitled AFAIAA to do the same without a loud-hailer but, again AFAIAA, he hasn't reappeared.Umbongonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-56265599988082011982010-07-21T12:51:33.296+01:002010-07-21T12:51:33.296+01:00Even Public areas have rules.
One is, you do not ...Even Public areas have rules.<br /><br />One is, you do not shit all over them. Which from reports I have heard and seen of the stink at the site, is EXACTLY what they have been doing.<br /><br />Although with hippys, how the HEL do you tell the difference? They all stink like that any way.Furor Teutonicushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13856575077967523322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-58689652934384755652010-07-21T11:10:42.334+01:002010-07-21T11:10:42.334+01:00And there, Brian, you show that democracy and free...And there, Brian, you show that democracy and freedom are largely incompatible.<br /><br />I'm not a big fan of a load of smelly layabouts setting up camp in the middle of a busy city, but it IS a public area. *shrug*<br /><br />I mean either it is or it isn't.bnzsshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05864389764701176671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-68635801472767984202010-07-21T09:58:07.224+01:002010-07-21T09:58:07.224+01:00Silly old you, BenS. Don't you realise freedom...Silly old you, BenS. Don't you realise freedom and democracy exist so that the inhabitants of 'Democracy Village' get what they want. That the electorate roundly reject them is neither here nor there.Brian, follower of Deornothhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11941277617617928470noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-10432887803117812472010-07-21T09:40:33.021+01:002010-07-21T09:40:33.021+01:00I would have napalmed the hippy throbbers...
But ...I would have napalmed the hippy throbbers...<br /><br />But that's just me.Mr Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16617360407755512199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-45837141252356408052010-07-21T09:28:31.158+01:002010-07-21T09:28:31.158+01:00It's a shame our Johann has aa, uh, incomplete...It's a shame our Johann has aa, uh, incomplete understanding of 'freedom'.<br /><br />That said, it is a public space. That's the tragedy of the commons for you.bnzsshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05864389764701176671noreply@blogger.com