tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post3629072832701416228..comments2024-03-29T05:21:11.278+00:00Comments on Ambush Predator: Peter Davies Just Stuck His Head In The Lion's Mouth...JuliaMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07844126589712842477noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-80052535815919985902009-06-22T10:26:31.930+01:002009-06-22T10:26:31.930+01:00The English Democrats have an alliance with the ne...The English Democrats have an alliance with the neo-nazi England First Party.<br /><br />http://www.efp.org.uk/page71a.html<br /><br />http://www.efp.org.uk/page57.htmlDuckyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17110433142224316335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-14705357322825192002009-06-08T07:39:52.389+01:002009-06-08T07:39:52.389+01:00My oldest friend came here as an immigrant from In...My oldest friend came here as an immigrant from India when he was 7 years old. He has complained more than once to me about the intolerance of so called "anti-racists" who only end up stirring up trouble for him and his family - and not their own.<br /><br />I also know Peter Davies, a fine upstanding man who will do a grand job as Doncaster Mayor.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02948105455433369982noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-23037872177547819082009-06-07T21:42:47.858+01:002009-06-07T21:42:47.858+01:00"Who are these 'Righteous' of whom yo...<i>"Who are these 'Righteous' of whom you speak?"</i> <br /><br />Well, I believe it was <a href="http://leg-iron.livejournal.com/" rel="nofollow">Leg-Iron</a> who first coined the title. <br /><br />And yes, they do include 'those who have made it impossible to comment on race issues for fear of being branded racist'.JuliaMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07844126589712842477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-57779082453573172652009-06-07T20:08:07.567+01:002009-06-07T20:08:07.567+01:00I obviously don't understand attitudes to raci...I obviously don't understand attitudes to racism then.<br />Who are these 'Righteous' of whom you speak?<br />If you mean those who have made it impossible to comment on race issues for fear of being branded racist then I'm in total agreement with you. <br />I happen to believe that had more open debate and public consultation taken place regarding immigration and integration about 15 to 20 years ago then the issue wouldn't have become the sole province of powerful minority interest groups and professional stiflers of public opinion.<br />However, if the 'Righteous' are those who object to offensive remarks based on a person's immutable characteristics - such as colour, disability, etc, then I can't agree.<br />So, whilst I can cheerfully call Gordon Brown a twat - and much, much worse - I'm not very happy calling him a one-eyed Scottish twat.<br />Abuse based on something that you can help being is fine - but not on immutables.<br />It's possible to be selectively offensive.SteveSharkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08778300237472768226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-68697844458182979122009-06-07T19:56:43.016+01:002009-06-07T19:56:43.016+01:00I'm sorry, SteveShark, but Steve Uncles' j...I'm sorry, SteveShark, but Steve Uncles' joke leaves me thoroughly unoutraged. Indifferent would be closer to the mark. <br /> <br />Among jokes following this fairly common template, it is not particularly funny. It is just a rather long-winded way for the teller to state that he thinks there are too many Poles and Pakistanis in the country; a commonly enough held view, but so what? Where's the punchline? <br /> <br />The is essentially a rather weak political joke. If it didn't involve "immigrant" groups, allowing the Righteous to scream "racist", nobody would give half a shit. Just what is it with the Righteous and "racism", anyway?<br /> <br />As to the character and acceptability of the man Uncles himself I cannot speak as I know little of him. From what little I have seen he comes across as a boor and a bit of a bully. Probably make a damned fine politician, then.<br /> <br />I did, however, like John Demetriou's description of Uncles in his comment to your post: <br /> <br /><i>"For me, Uncles is your typical Wetherspoon’s Pub bore, minus any semblance of charm. He rants off, thinks he is so right about everything, yet ultimately no-one listens to him outside of his table of sad, scruffy hangers on and miscreants."</i> <br /> <br />Hmm. Sounds rather like most of the posters and commenters on <i>Pickled Politics</i> and <i>Socialist Unity</i> then.Edwin Greenwoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03639193560457674072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-44154101950960424062009-06-07T17:34:50.194+01:002009-06-07T17:34:50.194+01:00"As for taking action at the ballot boxes...w...<i>"As for taking action at the ballot boxes...well, Brown seem to be doing a cracking job of preventing us from doing so. "</i> <br /><br />Oh, I think it's out of his hands now. If we get more elections of fringe party candidates like Davies, maybe irrevocably so...<br /><br /><i>"So you don't think that if you were a Pakistani or a Pole then you'd be offended?"</i> <br /><br />Probably I would be. <br /><br />But I'm in agreement with Stephen Fry on this: <i>"You're offended? So ******* what?"</i> <br /><br />When did we decide that to never, ever be confronted with something which offends or disturbs us was a <i>good</i> idea?JuliaMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07844126589712842477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-81821992394894413802009-06-07T16:58:31.049+01:002009-06-07T16:58:31.049+01:00I like this man. Sensible policies. Don't wast...I like this man. Sensible policies. Don't waste money on trivia. Good man.Dr Evilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00176521760477086914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-23501196404141695372009-06-07T14:43:45.853+01:002009-06-07T14:43:45.853+01:00The 'niggardly' incident is just born out ...The 'niggardly' incident is just born out of plain ignorance and I agree it's stupid. Moreover, there was no intent to offend, I'm sure.<br />Not so with Uncles.<br />As for taking action at the ballot boxes...well, Brown seem to be doing a cracking job of preventing us from doing so. <br />Off colour?<br />So you don't think that if you were a Pakistani or a Pole then you'd be offended?<br />I'm not being argumentative - just trying to ascertain your viewpoint. I read your blog regularly and often agree - but not in this case...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-11780351384625800202009-06-07T12:12:28.307+01:002009-06-07T12:12:28.307+01:00"If anyone from the three major parties stand...<i>"If anyone from the three major parties standing as a candidate for the EU - which Uncles is, so he's not just a party funder - cracked that joke then they'd be dropped quicker than Prezza could pounce on a lard pie.<br /><br />If nothing else, it would show that they lacked any form of PR skills or discretion."</i> <br /><br />Politicians from the three major parties <i>have</i> cracked those kinds of jokes and been ridiculed for it. Remember the Winterton cockle-pickers episode? <br /><br />So what? The parties survived, and if the voters don't want the politicians making off colour jokes, it's up to <i>them</i> to take action at the ballot box.<br /><br />It's not for some star chamber to decide what is and is not acceptable to say, based on whatever is the latest fad in the multi-culti circles. <br /><br />That way leads to ridiculous decisions like <a href="http://www.adversity.net/special/niggardly.htm" rel="nofollow">this one</a>.JuliaMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07844126589712842477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-33617022884786016142009-06-07T11:24:50.911+01:002009-06-07T11:24:50.911+01:00@JuliaM
If anyone from the three major parties sta...@JuliaM<br />If anyone from the three major parties standing as a candidate for the EU - which Uncles is, so he's not just a party funder - cracked that joke then they'd be dropped quicker than Prezza could pounce on a lard pie.<br />If nothing else, it would show that they lacked any form of PR skills or discretion.<br />Yes, we all know that politicians will say one thing and then think another, but they're usually a lot more careful than Uncles.SteveSharkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08778300237472768226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-67323847099472594292009-06-07T10:25:17.032+01:002009-06-07T10:25:17.032+01:00"The amazing thing about this is that the mai...<i>"The amazing thing about this is that the main parties were smashed in this election, an openly populist, openly English candidate was elected and the first I knew about it on the BBC was this article."</i> <br /><br />That's 'amazing'...? ;)JuliaMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07844126589712842477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-72800348508269064372009-06-07T09:41:27.252+01:002009-06-07T09:41:27.252+01:00The BBC are not going to support/broadcast too muc...The BBC are not going to support/broadcast too much about this as it could snow ball and before you know it the country is run by English Democrats who are just about to stop the tv licencing fee and the BBC said........Ah good no more eastenders.<br />Just a bit of humour.sorry.magnumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16931203982117405788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-64780596278617494272009-06-07T09:24:08.952+01:002009-06-07T09:24:08.952+01:00The amazing thing about this is that the main part...The amazing thing about this is that the main parties were smashed in this election, an openly populist, openly English candidate was elected and the first I knew about it on the BBC was this article.<br /><br />Surely a political earthquake like this should have merited more reporting on the BBC website than a perfunctory article buried in the South Yorkshire section? I know it's "oop north" and so beyond the interest of the Metropolitan beeboids, but even so...Robnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-18071960528111429142009-06-07T08:40:23.515+01:002009-06-07T08:40:23.515+01:00At least Mr davies is not afraid to speak his mind...At least Mr davies is not afraid to speak his mind and tells it how it is. Unlike many others in positions of power that answer a question with a question. Transparency is the key to democracy and as long as we can see results for the better management and not the hidden agendas of his predessors then i believe its a step in the right direction. We should all wait and seemagnumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16931203982117405788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-8941845995985466652009-06-07T07:31:31.638+01:002009-06-07T07:31:31.638+01:00"Please read this before you start to accept ...<i>"Please read this before you start to accept anything to do with the EDP."</i> <br /><br />Hmm, OK...<br /><br />Read it. And...? I mean, one of the party backers posted a joke I've seen many times (usually with different subjects, depending on audience) that some regard as tasteless, and that's it? <br /><br /><i>"Let Peter Davies be judged on what he does for the people of Doncaster..."</i> <br /><br />Indeed. He won by less than 400 - if he proves to be a liability, it's up to the people of Doncaster to vote him out.JuliaMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07844126589712842477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-60926505836913762162009-06-06T23:01:49.956+01:002009-06-06T23:01:49.956+01:00@invicta
Prescience has absolutely nothing to do w...@invicta<br />Prescience has absolutely nothing to do with it - I wrote that blog entry a few days ago...so chew on that.<br />As for being a crank, if you think that it's OK for a parliamentary candidate to state his opposition to racism and bigotry and then post a racist and bigoted joke on a public forum then you deserve politicains like these EDP types.SteveSharkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08778300237472768226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-12547475393578628012009-06-06T22:58:20.031+01:002009-06-06T22:58:20.031+01:00Yes, it's about Steve Uncles, but he's a b...Yes, it's about Steve Uncles, but he's a big fish in the EDP's little pool.<br />Hell, even many EDP members think he should go, but as he funds them as well, he's hard to keep quiet.<br />Surely you can appreciate that if you have such people in positions of power within a party then you cannot be sure what the true agenda of the party is.<br />I mean, just look at people like Ed Balls and Brown...SteveSharkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08778300237472768226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-44579146201011920612009-06-06T22:57:35.334+01:002009-06-06T22:57:35.334+01:00"Now watch the Righteous turn on this tiny pa..."Now watch the Righteous turn on this tiny party and demonise them... I predict Mr Davies is in for a bumpy ride"<br /><br />Referring to Steve Shark's post above, it would appear that this blogger's original comments were very prescient indeed!<br /><br />I agree with S Miller here. Let Peter Davies be judged on what he does for the people of Doncaster, not based on what a few cranks would try to stir up regarding the English Democrats.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-40481522125653591352009-06-06T22:54:12.023+01:002009-06-06T22:54:12.023+01:00I am happy to say that i had Mr Davies as my form ...I am happy to say that i had Mr Davies as my form teacher and R.E.Teacher during the early 90's and he was very straight talking and to the point. He never forced bible studies and asked us what we wanted to know.As long as he sticks to that formula of what people want then i think he is the right man for the job. Just to quote on stevesharks attempt of fuelling a political debate. Your quoting a blog from a different forum about a different EDP candidate called Steve Uncle. Regardless of this persons tact, what has that got to do with Peter Davies views, opinions or skills for the job in hand.magnumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16931203982117405788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-51801261702154691662009-06-06T22:41:37.795+01:002009-06-06T22:41:37.795+01:00Please read this before you start to accept anythi...Please read this before you start to accept anything to do with the EDP.<br /><br />http://steveshark.wordpress.com/2009/06/03/edp-candidate-steve-uncles-in-his-own-words/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-32250929095993490442009-06-06T21:05:14.140+01:002009-06-06T21:05:14.140+01:00Mr Davies stands to win wider acclaim by introduci...Mr Davies stands to win wider acclaim by introducing an appropriate scale of charges.Dr Melvin T Graynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-1743273074944185482009-06-06T20:00:23.617+01:002009-06-06T20:00:23.617+01:00Good to see taxpayers money still going in via the...Good to see taxpayers money still going in via the FIRE BRIGADE and POLICE! WTF is that all about?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-90570495138387749132009-06-06T18:26:47.314+01:002009-06-06T18:26:47.314+01:00Oh, yes! I've seen the photos from those event...Oh, yes! I've seen the photos from those events. <br /><br />Good god, the idea that anyone would display themselves in that way to advance a (initially good) cause is mindblowing.JuliaMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07844126589712842477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-6558201915835313872009-06-06T18:20:54.280+01:002009-06-06T18:20:54.280+01:00It's not as bad as this (yet)
up your alley
...It's not as bad as this (yet)<br /><br /><a href="http://www.zombietime.com/up_your_alley_2008/" rel="nofollow">up your alley</a><br /><br />This is a report from a gay pride event in San Fransisco by "Zombie". It's beyond disturbing.<br /><br />The landing page is safe and contains warnings which I suggest paying some attention too unless you have a copious supply of mind bleach (and I'm fresh out).<br /><br />You might also explore Zombie's other photography, which show's the left for what they are.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com