tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post4387268098062499399..comments2024-03-29T05:21:11.278+00:00Comments on Ambush Predator: Miss Smilla Had A Feeling For Snow, Inspector Gadget Has A Feeling For Timing...JuliaMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07844126589712842477noreply@blogger.comBlogger52125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-81549876772414384752011-12-01T21:19:19.903+00:002011-12-01T21:19:19.903+00:00This comment has been removed by the author.Furor Teutonicushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13856575077967523322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-20110606485845625182011-12-01T20:17:00.582+00:002011-12-01T20:17:00.582+00:00@ the Furor
You are cordially invited to drop in...@ the Furor<br /> <br />You are cordially invited to drop in 4T at 39 Town End Almondbury, Huddersfield, W Yorks. HD5 8NP. I hope you can still recall threatening to honour me with your surprise visit. You know, the one made publicly on a police blog, which promised a bunch of something? You really must taste some special wines to be found in my sound-proofed cellar.MTGnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-62081411584228965932011-11-30T06:56:37.372+00:002011-11-30T06:56:37.372+00:00XX as importunt scotish export to Brandenburg-Preu...XX as importunt scotish export to Brandenburg-Preußen, mah coments as State Beneffit sponger shuld nay hae bin puttied last, wee lassie. Och no XX<br /><br />Von Brandenburg-Preußen.Von Spreuthnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-39036617937728545952011-11-29T15:59:06.008+00:002011-11-29T15:59:06.008+00:00Vergessen Sie die 'Schlagseite' nicht.Vergessen Sie die 'Schlagseite' nicht.insanitus diabeticusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-29984395996399304962011-11-29T15:34:30.136+00:002011-11-29T15:34:30.136+00:00XX Marionette de Chaussette said... XX
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Habe ...XX Marionette de Chaussette said... XX<br /><br />:-)<br /><br />Habe auch bemerkt, aber... na, wieso sollte ich mich darum kümmern? :-)Furor Teutonicushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13856575077967523322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-42825133727342123102011-11-29T09:32:47.991+00:002011-11-29T09:32:47.991+00:00^ Crane your head back - you may miss fewer jokes....^ Crane your head back - you may miss fewer jokes.Jules de Chaussettenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-35240041645828765882011-11-29T09:21:06.452+00:002011-11-29T09:21:06.452+00:00alten pfenig
Oh dear - if you want to be offensiv...<i>alten pfenig</i><br /><br />Oh dear - if you want to be offensive you really need to take the trouble to be accurate and offensive.<br /><br />One spelling mistake and one grammatical error in only two words. And that's not counting the "ü" on Führer.Marionette de Chaussettenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-26626740184817829592011-11-29T05:54:10.871+00:002011-11-29T05:54:10.871+00:00"..simply hold the car upside down for a whil...<i>"..simply hold the car upside down for a while."</i><br /><br />You do that by driving really fast into a corner, right? ;)<br /><br /><i>"...This blog was always disagreeably contaminated. Its newly acquired 'polluted' status..."</i><br /><br />?JuliaMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07844126589712842477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-26163932644442369402011-11-28T23:58:00.139+00:002011-11-28T23:58:00.139+00:00Mein Fuhrer...the parrot has seen better days but ...Mein Fuhrer...the parrot has seen better days but it won't be worth an alten pfenig ending up bald as you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-90007274414781164212011-11-28T23:50:28.491+00:002011-11-28T23:50:28.491+00:00Everyone seems to forget, when talking "non l...Everyone seems to forget, when talking "non lethal" the police ARE armed. They have battons.<br /><br /> How many people get accidently battoned?Furor Teutonicushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13856575077967523322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-47680658689353605922011-11-28T23:08:56.375+00:002011-11-28T23:08:56.375+00:00This comment has been removed by the author.Furor Teutonicushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13856575077967523322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-35668983377612853802011-11-28T16:07:18.923+00:002011-11-28T16:07:18.923+00:00Bye bye.
I'm sure there's a blog somewhere...Bye bye.<br />I'm sure there's a blog somewhere where everyone agrees with you.<br />How dare someone disagree with you!!<br />Keep away from sharp objects Melvin.<br />Jaded.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-68135936255189678162011-11-28T15:24:58.888+00:002011-11-28T15:24:58.888+00:00"whats more likely, I get shot or I get taser..."whats more likely, I get shot or I get tasered?"<br /><br />You must seek your answer from present police. Do not mistake me for someone who gives a fig for your welfare, Sobers. <br /><br />This blog was always disagreeably contaminated. Its newly acquired 'polluted' status requires me to distance nostrils from putridity.MTGnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-39335035450397217152011-11-28T14:31:29.721+00:002011-11-28T14:31:29.721+00:00@MTG: What?
Look, its fairly obvious that if a po...@MTG: What?<br /><br />Look, its fairly obvious that if a policeman is faced with a person being obnoxious but not actually dangerous, he's not going to shoot them. I'm no great fan of the police but even I can work out that the consequences for an officer shooting someone who turns out to be innocent or that excessive force was used, is pretty high. Police officers aren't going to be waving them around like confetti. They don't abroad do they?<br /><br />Whereas (as we have seen in the pepper spray incident in the US recently) non lethal weapons are much more likely to be used, and thus more likely to be used in error.<br /><br />Put it this way - if I'm stopped by the police for some erroneous reason, and I go off on one giving them a piece of my mind, whats more likely, I get shot or I get tasered?Sobersnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-60023551617555963872011-11-28T11:56:58.937+00:002011-11-28T11:56:58.937+00:00@ sobers
You must tell us all - should exceptiona...@ sobers<br /><br />You must tell us all - should exceptional fortune see you survive a hollow tip round - how convalescence is aided by a police 'Best Wishes' card together with news of no intention to discharge the gun in your direction.MTGnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-72265851320644901042011-11-28T10:53:36.503+00:002011-11-28T10:53:36.503+00:00Excellent comment Sobers!Might just work.
I rememb...Excellent comment Sobers!Might just work.<br />I remember when we were first issued with CS gas and we went for training.The instructor said we could get sprayed if we wanted to to see the what the effects are like.I foolishly volunteered as did about half my class.The instructor asked one of the refusenicks why they weren't having a go and one said, quite philosophically "When we had baton training I didn't want to get hit round the head either"!<br />The gas bloody hurt.Hand on heart in all the years I have had CS gas I have never sprayed anyone.I have waved it around a few times though.When I went for refresher training my cannister was confiscated off me as the use by date had long gone!<br />Before MTG pipes up,I have a very high arrest rate and I do not "hug the radiator" either.<br />JadedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-62630734595704517222011-11-28T10:31:08.036+00:002011-11-28T10:31:08.036+00:00I have to agree with Angry Exile. If all cops had ...I have to agree with Angry Exile. If all cops had firearms they would be very unlikely to use them, except in extremis. Whereas tasers are far more likely to be used in a 'This bloke is annoying me, I think I'll taser him' way. <br /><br />The only thing I can suggest if tasers are the way things are going is that it should be legislated that if a policeman uses a taser, and it subsequently is found to have been unlawful (excessive force was used, wrong person was tasered etc) then the victim gets to taser the policeman who did it.<br /><br />That might temper a few hot heads who like the power trip of waving 'weapons' around and using them.Sobersnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-81395474519093092242011-11-28T08:05:34.556+00:002011-11-28T08:05:34.556+00:00"....and I decry the rantings of the cop-hate..."....and I decry the rantings of the cop-haters)because it takes courage to row against the stream ..."<br /><br />Well said.<br /><br />I compare JuliaM's dual worded, treacherous endorsement to the action of a child spreading jam on both sides of her bread.MTGnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-27038023229746953362011-11-28T05:45:49.748+00:002011-11-28T05:45:49.748+00:00... I let the garage handle the oil-changing bit, ...<i>... I let the garage handle the oil-changing bit, so I've no idea where it goes!</i><br /><br />For future reference it goes down that little pipe the dipstick lives in, but you have to pour it very slowly. To get it the old oil out again when you need to change it simply hold the car upside down for a while.<br /><br />/ducks and runsAngry Exilehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02491082312193274360noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-11711662543219141792011-11-28T05:45:39.096+00:002011-11-28T05:45:39.096+00:00" I do welcome the voices of Jaded and others...<i>" I do welcome the voices of Jaded and others here (and I decry the rantings of the cop-haters)because it takes courage to row against the stream ..."</i><br /><br />Well said.<br /><br /><i>"Give a cop a taser and the much lower consequences, or likely consequences, of using it increase the chances of it being used and so we see incidents from around the world of unarmed people getting repeatedly zapped for being a passive-aggressive pain in the arse."</i><br /><br />Spot on! Why increase the chances of this?JuliaMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07844126589712842477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-19396113889429201282011-11-28T05:43:55.073+00:002011-11-28T05:43:55.073+00:00"PS You are turning into a bit of a Gadget ob...<i>"PS You are turning into a bit of a Gadget obsessed person..."</i> <br /><br />Well, if he didn't keep putting his foot in his mouth (I won't use the 'shooting himself in the foot' option, for obvious reasons) I wouldn't have so much to wrote about, would I? ;)<br /><br /><i>"It's not 1829 anymore, we live in a different world..."</i> <br /><br />It's not an irreversible decline, though sadly, it would seem we lack any political representation with the balls to start the process.<br /><br /><i>"I would imagine, thanks to the hard work of our political masters and their love of supporting the perp over the victim, the cops feel a bit isolated."</i> <br /><br />I've no doubt they do, but their own response to that pressure from above should not be the route they are currently taking.<br /><br /><i>"All I can say is thank god I live in a society where we may not agree with your views, but the police will defend your right to say it."</i><br /><br />Errr, pardon? Have you forgotten <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/oxfordshire/4606022.stm" rel="nofollow">this incident</a>? <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-15429369" rel="nofollow">This one</a>? And <a href="http://www.christian.org.uk/news/video-police-ban-bible-from-christian-cafe/" rel="nofollow">this one</a>?<br /><br />Sadly, the days of the impartial police officer are over. Too many eagerly leap on PC rulings to throw their weight around or advance (frankly sinister) hidden agendas.JuliaMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07844126589712842477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-29040715550841950322011-11-28T05:36:14.661+00:002011-11-28T05:36:14.661+00:00"What fucking stupid twat cleans a LOADED fir...<i>"What fucking stupid twat cleans a LOADED firearm?"</i> <br /><br />Quite, but Quality Street tin ammo man is still way ahead on points...<br /><br /><i>"... but to deny them non-lethal weapons such as a Taser from the comfort of your armchair I would question."</i> <br /><br />I'm not - I think qualified firearms officers should have it. Training and monitoring needs to be beefed up, however, as this incident shows. <br /><br />But not everyone.<br /><br /><i>"..which has to be up there with attempting to change the car's oil while the engine is running."</i> <br /><br />I'd have gone for 'changing a tyre while the car is still moving'. Mainly because I let the garage handle the oil-changing bit, so I've no idea where it goes!<br /><br /><i>"... we were always promised that research would continue for a non-lethal alternative."</i><br /><br />It's <i>less</i>-lethal. I doubt we are anywhere near finding a completely non-lethal solution.JuliaMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07844126589712842477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-13166696415353632792011-11-28T05:31:43.107+00:002011-11-28T05:31:43.107+00:00"Gadget shows a touching faith in the serious...<i>"Gadget shows a touching faith in the seriousness of his fellow officers."</i> <br /><br />Indeed! And that's before we get into the case of the instructor who kept mixed live and blank ammo in a Quality Street tin!<br /><br /><i>"Lifting your ban..."</i> <br /><br />Has he? Will go check later.<br /><br /><i>"If a bobby runs someone over or treads on your toes, that (may be) a forgivable accident. If, on the other hand, he tasers you, he meant to do it."</i> <br /><br />Possibly, but as Mick T (and this incident) points out, not necessarily! I'm assuming you can have a negligent discharge with a taser?<br /><br /><i>"Mops get Brooms!"</i><br /><br />LOL!JuliaMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07844126589712842477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-72295830291489081872011-11-28T01:35:56.383+00:002011-11-28T01:35:56.383+00:00I was once comfortable with the idea of cops havin...I was once comfortable with the idea of cops having tasers - in fact still am happy with them having tasers as private citizens, though as Jaded says it'll probably be long time before people get over their fear of law abiding citizens being armed with anything more dangerous than a wet newspaper - but for police duties I've come to feel that the taser being seen as the non-/less lethal alternative to a firearm it gets used too readily.<br /><br />Give a cop a taser and the much lower consequences, or likely consequences, of using it increase the chances of it being used and so we see incidents from around the world of unarmed people getting repeatedly zapped for being a passive-aggressive pain in the arse. To a lesser extent it applies to capsicum spray too, though after what happened at UC Davis last week maybe not all that lesser after all. Give a cop a gun and it tends to stay in the holster unless it's really needed, and because the consequences of firing are so serious shooting is very much a last resort option. This isn't a dig at any particular police force because it seems to happen all over the world, and it's not even a dig at cops because I think it's just the way things are. If there's a weapon that's specifically designed to be used <i>before</i> the last resort then of course it's going to be used more often, and if it's one that usually does no lasting harm and has a short recovery time it's just human nature to be much less reluctant to shoot the thing. That might not be an issue if it's used for what the Yanks like to call home dee-fence but it worries me when it's a tool for policing, particularly wrt the 'drive stun' function which is too readily used as an electric prod for two legged cattle. I'd far rather just arm all the cops.<br /><br />I'd also suggest that routinely armed police might reduce the rate of negligent discharges. You probably wouldn't get anyone being all cocky (not that I'm saying it's common) because they're a firearms officer when all officers, even those fresh out of the academy, are firearms officers. Instead you'd hopefully get a culture of responsible handling of firearms throughout the whole force because anyone acting like a dick with their gun is going to get called on it by every officer around them. You're never going to eliminate all risk but what it comes down to is this: while it still annoys me that the police and criminals get guns and the public don't (the principle annoys me - if it was legal to carry a gun I wouldn't actually bother to do it as I really don't feel the need) I don't lose a moment's sleep knowing there's more than 10,000 of them where I live with a S&W .40 each. It helps knowing that hardly any of them have a taser.Angry Exilehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02491082312193274360noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-23763329754363983232011-11-27T23:50:47.779+00:002011-11-27T23:50:47.779+00:00but the police will defend your right to say it
A...<i>but the police will defend your right to say it</i><br /><br />As a rule I don't comment here to have a go at the police and this is no exception but I do think it's a bit far-fetched to claim that it's within the remit of the police to defend (or curtail) free speech and I doubt whether they would aspire to do a job which as a matter of policy should rightfully fall to their political masters.<br /><br />On balance the tendency among police officers and their managers would seem to be to anticipate political dictat and to inhibit the freedom of the individual if there is the possibility of offending current shibboleths.<br /><br />There's a considerable rag bag of examples of ill-conceived and heavy-handed interventions against photographers or people who might conceivably offend muslims or racial minorities or those who make it their business to be offended which leaves the part of the population of which I am a part feeling beleaguered and antagonistic.<br /><br />Add to that the unsettling demands for increased powers and reduced accountability which Ian Blair repeatedly argued for in the teeth of one or two ugly abuses of power or maladministration on his watch and I think there's a fairly good case for saying 'no' to tasers or the routine arming of police.<br /><br />I don't visit Gadget's site any more: there are far too many stupid, arrogant and dangerous people there. I do welcome the voices of Jaded and others here (and I decry the rantings of the cop-haters)because it takes courage to row against the stream and because it's useful and informative to have their considered view.Mick Turatiannoreply@blogger.com