tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post4788521351397561919..comments2024-03-29T11:13:00.338+00:00Comments on Ambush Predator: Pick On The Unsympathetic Targets....JuliaMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07844126589712842477noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-24858549666798954382008-12-31T18:43:00.000+00:002008-12-31T18:43:00.000+00:00But, as it's for a clearly defined group (ie of co...But, as it's for a clearly defined group (ie of cons and some ex-cons), there are minimal grounds to argue that it's the thin edge of the wedge or a slippery slope.<BR/><BR/>Excellent blog, btw.paul ilchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02971581388762736463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-68167453786204509262008-12-30T16:56:00.000+00:002008-12-30T16:56:00.000+00:00"If you have been duly convicted of an offence req...<I>"If you have been duly convicted of an offence requiring a custodial sentence, your 'human rights' should be suspended <B>for the duration of the sentence</B>."</I><BR/><BR/>I agree with that. But this proposal is suggesting that after the serving of the sentence, they are allowed to come back for a second bite, and subject you to a process that wasn't legal when you made your first error, and paid for it accordingly.<BR/><BR/>And this is going to sweep up the 'single criminal act' with the long-term career thief. <BR/><BR/> So that really IS the thin end of the wedge...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-77433121352923429832008-12-30T16:36:00.000+00:002008-12-30T16:36:00.000+00:00Whenever I hear talk of prisoners' rights,I want t...Whenever I hear talk of prisoners' rights,I want to revive the concept of the outlaw. If you have been duly convicted of an offence requiring a custodial sentence, your 'human rights' should be suspended for the duration of the sentence. Prison should be nasty; it should involve severe curtailment of liberty and 'rights'. Furthermore, as most ex-cons are recidivists, it seems only prudent to get their dna on the database.<BR/><BR/>I don't see this as a slippery slope or the thin edge of the wedge.paul ilchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02971581388762736463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-60934864843403246252008-12-30T13:07:00.000+00:002008-12-30T13:07:00.000+00:00Not too bothered if they are 1/ currently in Jail ...Not too bothered if they are <BR/>1/ currently in Jail<BR/> or<BR/>2/ were given a life sentence.AntiCitizenOnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00017073518049848696noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-76364189612313538172008-12-30T10:55:00.000+00:002008-12-30T10:55:00.000+00:00"A prisoner convicted of a serious crime is likely...<I>"A prisoner convicted of a serious crime is likely to be released on licence before the formal end of the custodial sentence. I do not see making that release conditional on the prisoner giving a DNA sample to the national database as the thin end of a wedge."</I><BR/><BR/>No, I'd agree with that, subject to this being:<BR/><BR/>a) imposed from a 'cut off' date, and<BR/>b) the DNA sample to be destroyed after the licence period has run out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-52617910984201497162008-12-30T09:29:00.000+00:002008-12-30T09:29:00.000+00:00Conviction of a crime justifies interference with ...Conviction of a crime justifies interference with that person's civil rights. Where the crime was thought to be serious enough to justify a custodial sentence, greater interference is justified.<BR/><BR/>A prisoner convicted of a serious crime is likely to be released on licence before the formal end of the custodial sentence. I do not see making that release conditional on the prisoner giving a DNA sample to the national database as the thin end of a wedge.<BR/><BR/>But I agree that it would be wrong to require those convicted of serious crimes years or decades ago, and who have not been convicted again, to have to give a DNA sampleWill Williamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01697506131638032159noreply@blogger.com