tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post7318471596206910114..comments2024-03-29T05:21:11.278+00:00Comments on Ambush Predator: Which Part Of ‘Private Property’ Don’t You Understand?JuliaMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07844126589712842477noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-31685576576885301702010-11-03T05:14:12.967+00:002010-11-03T05:14:12.967+00:00"...should be - 'They couldn't care l...<i>"...should be - 'They couldn't care less what your beef is' to have the correct sense of what you are saying."</i> <br /><br />I'm afraid I succumb to the occasional Americanism from time to time!<br /><br /><i>"British police now only do whatever they can't get away with not doing Sobers."</i> <br /><br />Very true!JuliaMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07844126589712842477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-59438820404088661702010-11-03T05:12:58.543+00:002010-11-03T05:12:58.543+00:00"So, the State interferes with private proper...<i>"So, the State interferes with private property rights to discriminate against smokers!"</i> <br /><br />Yup, a very good point.<br /><br /><i>"...because, I assume, Network Rail have a similarly robust attitude towards these nuisances."</i> <br /><br />I think they must do. They probably quote 'safety concerns'.<br /><br /><i>"The shouty antics of a bunch of over-privileged Lefty Sloanes matters not one jot in the grand scheme of things."</i> <br /><br />I would say it keeps them out of trouble, but...<br /><br /><i>"Why can the private owners of a shopping mall call the police and get them to do their bidding? Whats the difference?"</i><br /><br />They have money. And council influence.<br /><br /><i>"I wonder if she would have leapt so readily to the defence of a group like the BNP?"</i> <br /><br />We'll see how many CiF columns spring up demanding the Tories overturn their decision to allow teachers who are members of the BNP - a legal political party - to be banned from teaching, shall we?JuliaMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07844126589712842477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-36966896480140352542010-11-03T00:26:41.049+00:002010-11-03T00:26:41.049+00:00British police now only do whatever they can't...British police now only do whatever they can't get away with not doing Sobers. They haven't been doing actual policing since around 1979. Britain generally is too stupid to care, so they more or less get away with not doing much at all.<br />Richard points to the madness involved - not only do pubs have to reject smokers, they are allowed to sell the most dangerous drug in the country, whilst banning one with a third of its 'Nutt Score'.<br />Julia will know just what trespass is all about after a visit from the Royal Society For the Prevention of Cruelty To One-legged Lesbian Orang-outangs - the industry sector enforcement organisation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-18171147483758171582010-11-02T21:32:02.354+00:002010-11-02T21:32:02.354+00:00Being a bit pedantic but I think this line - '...Being a bit pedantic but I think this line - <i>'They could care less what your beef is'</i> - should be - 'They <b>couldn't</b> care less what your beef is' to have the correct sense of what you are saying.ivannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-72747164707457642062010-11-02T18:50:05.898+00:002010-11-02T18:50:05.898+00:00"subject to protestors behaving reasonably&qu..."subject to protestors behaving reasonably"<br /><br />Of course! Secondary picketing, attacking people's homes, stopping the free passage of people going about their lawful business... Yep, the lefties always act "reasonably" and if you disagree just how reasonable they are they'll thump you.<br /><br />'Sorry officer, I wuz jamming this steel pole through McDonald's window cos I is being reasonable, innit?"quasi-public-personnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-22321318355481113812010-11-02T18:33:17.708+00:002010-11-02T18:33:17.708+00:00@Chalcedon: If a bunch of travellers turn up on my...@Chalcedon: If a bunch of travellers turn up on my land, and I want them to leave, and try to make them, I reckon a breach of the peace is pretty much guaranteed. But the police will probably arrest me for antagonising them. <br /><br />And as for criminal trespass, you have to show that the property is out of bounds for the public (locked/fenced off) and there is criminal intent on the part of the trespasser (theft/damage). None of which apply to a privately owned open space used by the public, such as a shopping mall. Definition here: http://www.ehow.com/facts_5017334_criminal-trespassing.html<br /><br />So I repeat why do the police do the bidding of private landowners in some instances and not others (such as people whose houses are invaded by Eastern European squatters for example)?sobersnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-55127306063394318372010-11-02T17:04:16.348+00:002010-11-02T17:04:16.348+00:00I wonder if she would have leapt so readily to the...I wonder if she would have leapt so readily to the defence of a group like the BNP?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-27662986644709542962010-11-02T16:10:20.281+00:002010-11-02T16:10:20.281+00:00@sobers: I expect it is to do with a breach of th...@sobers: I expect it is to do with a breach of the peace or a potential breach of the peace. that's the difference. Also there is criminal tresspass too and that law might cover it.Dr Evilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00176521760477086914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-29528313331353755412010-11-02T15:42:57.312+00:002010-11-02T15:42:57.312+00:00Now, now Sobers, you aren't supposed to ask qu...Now, now Sobers, you aren't supposed to ask questions like that. Common sense and the actions of the "Righteous" rarely coincide.Quiet_Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09575652127079681825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-7756296375106712752010-11-02T14:23:59.960+00:002010-11-02T14:23:59.960+00:00What I don't understand is this - if I as a pr...What I don't understand is this - if I as a private landowner have trespassers, and call the police, they will say thats its a civil matter, and decline to do anything. Why can the private owners of a shopping mall call the police and get them to do their bidding? Whats the difference?sobersnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-52562073718900716972010-11-02T12:51:03.233+00:002010-11-02T12:51:03.233+00:00People like this make me chuckle.
I for one could...People like this make me chuckle.<br /><br />I for one couldn't give a rat's arse about the people in Bangladesh. If Bangladeshis feel aggrieved enough about their working conditions, they'll eventually do something about it. <br /><br />The shouty antics of a bunch of over-privileged Lefty Sloanes matters not one jot in the grand scheme of things. I doubt anyone in Bangladesh is even aware of this silly cow's 'stance' and they'd probably only giggle if they were...<br /><br />Fuck me but I hate Socialists...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-80162581551020413262010-11-02T12:42:32.376+00:002010-11-02T12:42:32.376+00:00Well said Julia.
I frequently walk the short dist...Well said Julia.<br /><br />I frequently walk the short distance between the two main line railway stations of one of Britain's larger cities. <br /><br />The great thing about actually arriving in the precinct of the destination station, is that at that point you leave all the chuggers, free-newspaper-pushers, handout distributors, beggars, etc behind - because, I assume, Network Rail have a similarly robust attitude towards these nuisances.<br /><br />Hooray for customer service!Weekend Yachtsmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04262853091154005651noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-68685982185777460042010-11-02T12:31:23.962+00:002010-11-02T12:31:23.962+00:00Richard: Quite. But are you looking for consistenc...Richard: Quite. But are you looking for consistency in the government's actions? I fear you'll be looking for a long time...bnzsshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05864389764701176671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-10231402611804857552010-11-02T11:39:02.562+00:002010-11-02T11:39:02.562+00:00"Quasi public property" would include pu..."Quasi public property" would include pubs. Smokers are chased away, but it's not through the choice of the landlord. So, the State interferes with private property rights to discriminate against smokers! I agree with your post, of course, but if a private landlord can expel demonstrators, why can't a private landlord admit smokers? Unless, of course the State is a bullying waste of space, time and money, and inconsistent in upholding rights an and when it suits them.richardnoreply@blogger.com