tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post7810161030447675908..comments2024-03-28T18:32:00.146+00:00Comments on Ambush Predator: Who Are You Going To Believe? Scientists, Or Your Lyin’ Eyes?JuliaMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07844126589712842477noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-71260802058351325842009-07-30T19:50:46.805+01:002009-07-30T19:50:46.805+01:00BMI was not invented by a doctor. It was invented ...BMI was not invented by a doctor. It was invented by Adolphe Quetelet, an.. astronomer. He was fascinated by statistics, it was the new in-thing, and had a fascination with the normal distribution (the "bell curve"). He organised the first international statistical conference and was one of the early activists pushing for today's "statistics based state".<br /><br />He believed that the Perfect Man is he who is the perfect mathematical average in all things. This is a very dubious statistic. I haven't yet met a woman who prefers a man who is, er, average...<br /><br />Anyway, he invented BMI, not doctors. It is a flawed measure. It is based on the <i>square</i> of height. People are <i>volumes</i>, not areas. It actually tends to favour short people and declare everyone who is tall and not emaciated to be too fat. It's crap.<br /><br />On another issue, this young lad appears to be of west african descent. West Africans tend genetically to carry more weight than caucasians. So at the very least different genetic heritages should have different BMI scales. Equatorial africans (e.g. Somalians, or the Masai) tend to be taller and slimmer, as another example.<br /><br />Except that would be racist, presumably, to admit that different ethnicities are actually different.<br /><br />Everyone must be the same, and must be the perfect average. We've Adoplphe to thank for that.Ian Bhttp://www.countingcats.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-38600840029120425572009-07-30T18:24:27.491+01:002009-07-30T18:24:27.491+01:00I'm a fairly normal 40yo male (6ft, 15 and hal...I'm a fairly normal 40yo male (6ft, 15 and half stone, if you ask)<br /><br />Today, my BMI is 29.6. Yesterday at the gym, I did 85 pullups among a number of exercises, and I'll be playing squash on Friday.<br /><br />My BMI is a clear threat to my health, since my blood-pressure rises whenever one of the these medical idiots is quoted in an article.<br /><br />Any health-person talking to a kid/mother/patient about weight based on BMI is commiting prima facie malpractice. BMI exists because records only used to record height/weight. Any advice today should use body fat (which is safe against mis-diagnosis due to body composition. <br /><br />We need to file malpractice cases against any doctor or nurse who uses the "available statistic" metric instead of body fat for health advice.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-40594383788100398012009-07-30T18:20:48.133+01:002009-07-30T18:20:48.133+01:00How long before the SS turn up and take the kid of...How long before the SS turn up and take the kid off her, as "in danger"?<br /><br />Von Brandenburg-Preußen.Von Spreuthnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-68171934993120201502009-07-30T17:13:53.654+01:002009-07-30T17:13:53.654+01:00"Although useful as a guide for certain peopl...<i>"Although useful as a guide for certain people, BMI is almost useless as a general measure."</i> <br /><br />So, it's used here because it's easier for the 'layman' to understand? Or because it 'bigs up' (heh!) the obesity problem?<br /><br /><i>"These people don't want to even hear that this isn't an issue."</i> <br /><br />Of course not. Then they might have to get a <i>real</i> job...<br /><br /><i>"What's going on, have they run out of patients to kill?"</i> <br /><br />Not according to <a href="http://nationaldeathservice.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">National Death Service</a>!JuliaMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07844126589712842477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-45991621149602389622009-07-30T17:10:37.165+01:002009-07-30T17:10:37.165+01:00"...parts of the NHS already recognize this.&...<i>"...parts of the NHS already recognize this."</i> <br /><br />They need better communication then!<br /><br /><i>"UST LOOK AT THEM! Be careful doing that if you are a man though, as you could be beaten to death for being a paedophile."</i> <br /><br />And you'd certainly better not take pictures...<br /><br /><i>"...one which is using authoritarian powers to force people to conform to their beliefs."</i> <br /><br />Not always even their own beliefs, but merely those of their political paymasters.JuliaMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07844126589712842477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-46370005199988936262009-07-30T13:13:21.400+01:002009-07-30T13:13:21.400+01:00Oh, according to the NHS. Wooohoo. Thank you so mu...Oh, according to the NHS. Wooohoo. Thank you so much, NHS. How very Strength Through Joy of you. Have a fucking burger and shut the fuck up you joyless cunts. What's going on, have they run out of patients to kill?Angry Exilehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02491082312193274360noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-43874559792740720492009-07-30T12:48:05.727+01:002009-07-30T12:48:05.727+01:00One size does not fit all?
Really?
Have you told...One size does not fit all?<br /><br />Really?<br /><br />Have you told the government this? <br /><br />It could change a few things!<br /><br />(for could read should, naturally)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-86577806465146036812009-07-30T10:50:04.155+01:002009-07-30T10:50:04.155+01:00The trouble is that the NHS and science just aren&...The trouble is that the NHS and science just aren't the same thing.<br /><br />Remember, these are the people who tell you how many units you should drink, despite the fact that someone just pulled the figure out of thin air.<br /><br />If it is science, it wouldn't show <br />fit athletes as obese, but it does. So as a test, it fails. Now, the sort of response someone might make to pointing this out is "oh, that's unusual". OK, modify the scientific measure to account for it, or don't use it. If it's science, it should be measurable and work.<br /><br />The problem with The Obesity Epidemic is that it's not an industry and that means that people won't want to see it go away. We've got people in the NHS and various policy groups who use it to create more non-jobs. The likes of the BBC and the Graun can have their anti-capitalist, anti-meat attacks. The middle class press can sneer at pie-eating chavs. And a load of utter freeloaders can get jobs writing books and courses about feeding your kids healthily.<br /><br />These people don't want to even hear that this isn't an issue.Tim Almondhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13369256383976094670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-8272206498091828162009-07-30T10:43:35.394+01:002009-07-30T10:43:35.394+01:00According to my BMI I am clinically obese - but my...According to my BMI I am clinically obese - but my physical characteristics are pretty much the same as when I was playing rugby regularly. From what I understand, most of the England World Cup winning squad of 2003 would be classed as clinically obese by BMI.<br /><br />Although useful as a guide for certain people, BMI is almost useless as a general measure.Stanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15007863347348182876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-54353699713737674602009-07-30T10:07:44.729+01:002009-07-30T10:07:44.729+01:00"But Dr Ashley Adamson, a senior lecturer at ..."But Dr Ashley Adamson, a senior lecturer at the Human Nutrition Research Centre at Newcastle University, <b>warned that our perceptions of what “overweight” means has changed</b>."<br /><br />Oh yes, they certainly have. They have changed to "obese is whatever the progressives say it is".<br /><br />69% of children overweight or obese? A fucking joke. JUST LOOK AT THEM! Be careful doing that if you are a man though, as you could be beaten to death for being a paedophile.<br /><br />"What we need is more support for parents."<br /><br />Translation: "What we need is more power over parents".<br /><br />It is very, very disturbing how the medical profession is morphing from one which gave advice but did not force treatment, into one which is using authoritarian powers to force people to conform to their beliefs.Robnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-9043362644817756542009-07-30T09:31:35.462+01:002009-07-30T09:31:35.462+01:00BMI is a terrible way to measure obesity anyway, p...BMI is a terrible way to measure obesity anyway, parts of the NHS already recognize this.<br /><br />In diabetes research, obesity indicators are now more about waist size than BMI as that's a far better indicator of obesity.Eckersalldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15683974531982922955noreply@blogger.com