tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post9163115389937021293..comments2024-03-29T05:21:11.278+00:00Comments on Ambush Predator: "..the instant, white-hot, wild, wakened female of the species.."JuliaMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07844126589712842477noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-34530983483838709642016-12-13T03:02:48.249+00:002016-12-13T03:02:48.249+00:00You have literally taken a male conception of self...You have literally taken a male conception of self-defence and violence (THAT THE LAW IS BASED ON) - i.e. that force must be imminent after the threat to argue that they got let off likely since it was not. The whole point of the feminist argument is that the law fails to understand the relationship of coercion and fear that these women are in and they honestly feel that their only means of escape is to kill their abuser. I honestly do not think you have any understanding of domestic violence and so you should use your time to do something helpful for society as opposed to causing ignorance through your own.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-42276613565790800662016-12-13T02:57:52.198+00:002016-12-13T02:57:52.198+00:00Tone of this article is frankly childish - I don&#...Tone of this article is frankly childish - I don't think the writer has any understanding of domestic violence whatsoever to refer to a relationship of systematic abuse as a sob story. Shame on you for perpetuating ignorance around domestic violence.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-3595865761743814182009-06-28T06:55:42.080+01:002009-06-28T06:55:42.080+01:00"It is all too easy to claim that the murdere...<i>"It is all too easy to claim that the murdered partner was abusive. After all he/she cannot give her side of the story."</i> <br /><br />Indeed. Dead men (and women) tell no tales...JuliaMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07844126589712842477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-68229903784901516192009-06-28T01:33:30.059+01:002009-06-28T01:33:30.059+01:00It is all too easy to claim that the murdered part...It is all too easy to claim that the murdered partner was abusive. After all he/she cannot give her side of the story.<br />Paedophiles often claim that they were abused as children and this is usually unprovable as well.blueknighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18409655604657713593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-67702081361344079622009-06-27T15:28:27.319+01:002009-06-27T15:28:27.319+01:00"Bonkers feminist or not, that doesn't se...<i>"Bonkers feminist or not, that doesn't seem exactly even handed."</i> <br /><br />No, but then, different judge! She might have had a small point if it'd been the same....<br /><br /><i>"I'm also a little uncomfortable with the proposed change in the law, assuming she's reporting it accurately."</i> <br /><br />She is. I've been following it on 'CiF' for a while, and it's one of Harperson's (and Vera Baird, her partner in crime) worst ideas. And that's a strong field!<br /><br /><i>"...what are you going to do? Not like giving up and dispensing with juries altogether is an option, is it?"</i> <br /><br />They'll be suggesting that for rape cases too, before long!<br /><br /><i>"...these days, sanity is in short supply in the public sphere."</i> <br /><br />Sadly, all too true...JuliaMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07844126589712842477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-42964470727592876762009-06-27T08:59:13.732+01:002009-06-27T08:59:13.732+01:00Sorry, but I don’t find any of these cases persuas...Sorry, but I don’t find any of these cases persuasive of having somehow not received justice. In fact, given the agreed circumstances, I think they got off lightly.<br /><br />This is the sane point of view, Julia but these days, sanity is in short supply in the public sphere.James Highamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14525082702330365464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-627081175329856970.post-22913937936025609592009-06-27T08:29:08.167+01:002009-06-27T08:29:08.167+01:00Thornton became a cause célèbre for feminists camp...<i>Thornton became a cause célèbre for feminists campaigning against domestic violence. At the time, as the judge's comments made clear, little was known about what drives a battered woman to kill her abuser. Thornton appealed against her conviction, arguing that she killed as a result of "slow burn" provocation. She lost.<br /><br />Two days later, Joseph McGrail killed his common-law wife, as she lay drunk, by kicking her repeatedly in the stomach. He was given a two-year suspended sentence for manslaughter and walked free. The judge expressed "every sympathy" for McGrail, adding "this lady would have tried the patience of a saint".</i><br /><br />Bonkers feminist or not, that doesn't seem exactly even handed. However, I also wonder why Bindel seems so keen for equality before the law to mean that both sexes are as likely to get off with a soft sentence or a lesser charge. I'm also a little uncomfortable with the proposed change in the law, assuming she's reporting it accurately. Is it for Parliament to abolish a defense or introduce a new one? Or is it for a barrister to offer a defence and to a jury and for them to decide whether or not they accept it in the context of the offence and the other evidence? I'd hope the latter. If a defendant wants the barrister explain that they were provoked, or were in fear of their lives, or even that magic pixies sent a message by unicorn that made him do it, I think they should be free to put it to the jury. What gives Parliament the right to ban the magic pixies or any other defence? If you're going to have a jury system then you have to leave what constitutes an acceptable defence to the actual juries, and the beauty of that is it naturally gets looked at on a case by case basis instead of a blanket decision that this defence is always possible while that defence is not allowed. That might mean juries don't always deliver the most politically desirable results, but what are you going to do? Not like giving up and dispensing with juries altogether is an option, is it? <a href="http://angryexile.blogspot.com/2009/06/had-to-happen-sooner-or-later.html" rel="nofollow">Oh, silly me, </a>of course it is. [headslap]Angry Exilehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02491082312193274360noreply@blogger.com