In a brilliant exposé the Guardian reported how a lone man held up a pink triangle at a demonstration of the English Defence League – one of the most openly anti-immigrant and Islamophobic organisations in the country. When the reporter asked him what it was for he replied nervously: "This is the symbol gay people were made to wear under Hitler. Islam poses the same threat and we are here to express our opposition to that."Yes, indeed, it’s a puzzle. Why would a group opposed to the creep of Islamification attract people worried about the potential drawbacks of that?
Given fascism's history of violent and outspoken homophobia, the news that the EDL would have a 115-strong lesbian, gay and transgender wing would appear, at the very least, incongruous.
But surely Gary must be able to find a way in which this is actually the fault of the west?
Ah. He can:
But in fact it just the most glaring example of the misguided and ill-informed shift in our nationalist discourse that has moved the emphasis from creed to culture and race to religion in a bid to erect a moral rampart between the a mythological modern, enlightened, progressive west and the demonised medieval, backward, bigoted south.There’s nothing good about our society, folks. We’re just fooling ourselves. We’re just the same as any remote, primitive tribe, really...
Far from being a contradiction confined to the far right, these issues have taken on totemic significance in the mainstream in the broadside against both multiculturalism in general and non-European immigration in particular as though they were inimicable (Ed: sic) with the principles of social equality.By which Gary means ‘Damn! They aren’t supposed to be the ones on the side of justice!’.
At the end of an otherwise reasonable editorial on immigration in early April the Financial Times argued: "A strong emphasis on cultural assimilation is also justified" including a "robust defence of western values, such as women's and gay rights".Well, who could possibly argue against that?
But Gary gives it the old college try:
The problem with this particular line in the sand is that it is quickly washed away by reality. For something to qualify as a "western value" it must possess at least two qualities. First, it must be a "value" that is exclusive to the west. Second, it must be a belief that has been long-held, broadly consented to and deeply entrenched.Since when did we let Guardian columnists and race hustlers define our terms for us?
Gay rights can boast neither of these attributes. Many basic rights were only granted to gays in the west relatively recently.Indeed, but we stopped imprisoning and killing them a hell of a lot longer than that…
Moreover, far from cementing a consensus, these legal advances remain controversial and highly contested. In the 31 American states where gay marriage has been put to a popular vote it has been defeated.We’re really no better than the people who push walls over onto gay couples, are we?
The west has also proved quite adept at exporting homophobia. More than half of the countries that criminalise homosexuality do so with laws left over from British colonialism.Which ended last Thursday, right?
Not many, many years ago, leaving such laws in the hands of the native peoples, to repeal as they saw fit?
The greatest threat to gay rights comes not from Islam and the left, but the Christian right.Really? So a strongly worded letter to the ‘Church Times’ equates to the death penalty? But this paragraph tells you why Gary has a bee in his bonnet about this:
This is why we cannot allow an issue as important as gay rights to be snatched by the right as a stick with which to beat Islam, immigration and the left.Islam, immigration, the left = good.
Everything else = bad.
No matter what reality says….
Bloody hell Julia you don't half find stuff that winds me up! That whole sentence that begins with "But in fact" and end with "bigoted south" is the kind of pompous longwinded shite that leftwing nobheads use when they have no idea what they are talking about. I am cowtraged, this is inadmouseable!
ReplyDeleteIs there a ten commandments of leftery that we don't know about, and lefty writers are obliged to stick to regardless?
1. There is only one way and that is our way.
2. Islam good, Christianity bad.
3. If in doubt, use lots and lots of loooong words.
etc. etc.
Good post, one in a very long line tbf, this is rapidly becoming my favourite blog so credit where credit is due, you are doing a brilliant job
Why does he keep whingeing on about 'the south', like a bad 'Gone with the Wind' reprise?
ReplyDeleteThe whole article reads as though it has been run through Google Translate - out and back - a couple of times.
"...is it me, or does his picture on that by-line look a lot like deceased actor Gary Coleman?"
ReplyDeleteIf it's a life size photo I'd have to say Gary Coleman was probably taller. And as far as I've heard he wasn't known for talk out of his arse either.
Watchoo talkin' about, Gaz?
Tut. Bum-boys, eh?
ReplyDeleteThe last person to be executed in England for sodomy was hanged in 1833, despite the fact the death penalty was available until 1885, when it was replaced with life imprisonment (as part of a general tidy-up of criminal law). The notion that the rather shoddy treatment handed out to homosexuals through English history (my knowledge of Scottish history here is deficient) is (a) identical to the "south's" tendency to kill gays, and (b) the simple legacy of British colonialism is drivel. But hey, never let the facts stand in the way of a good western-bashing whine.
ReplyDeleteJeez, what an ar*e!
ReplyDeleteI add my congrats to you for processing this badly written leftist tract (I suppose in a way it would have been worse if it had been well written).
ReplyDeleteWhat can you do with these people? They think in terms competing discourses, and that to correct perceived historical injustice you are morally entitled to sculpt the facts to fit your argument. Rational discussion isn't possible. I do think that this type of approach to community relations, which has allowed no expression to be given to the feelings of the ordinary indigenous is one reason why the EDL has come into existence, and personally I think they've pretty restrained so far.
Thanks for your blog - it's really good.
Younge is as thick as mince.
ReplyDeleteFor what it's worth, I'm gay and live in a culturally-enriched inner-city area, surrounded by veiled baby-machines and Osama look-alikes, with a fatwa factory on every corner.
ReplyDeleteI'm grateful to Mr Younge for helping me to understand that the reason for my general sense of unease is the threat posed by fundamentalist Christians (and, no doubt, those right-wing skinheads who are so cunning that they haven't been seen for 25 years).
Perhaps they're hiding under all them burqas.
ReplyDelete"...you don't half find stuff that winds me up!"
ReplyDeleteIt's a gift... ;)
"...this is rapidly becoming my favourite blog so credit where credit is due, you are doing a brilliant job"
Cheers!
"The whole article reads as though it has been run through Google Translate - out and back - a couple of times."
Not unusual for some CiF columns!
"Thanks for your blog - it's really good."
Thank you!
"I'm grateful to Mr Younge for helping me to understand that the reason for my general sense of unease is the threat posed by fundamentalist Christians..."
ReplyDeleteThose wagging fingers and clucking tongues are deadly.
OK, not as deadly as mobs with machetes or brick walls about to topple, but let's not be judgemental, eh?
More than half of the countries that criminalise homosexuality do so with laws left over from British colonialism. Which ended last Thursday, right?
ReplyDeleteWell, you know how it is, they've been meaning to repeal those laws since 1960, but they have a different sense of time in Africa. Eh, Gary?
Great post.