The previous warnings about the animals, with the owners in no doubt just what their animals were capable of:
One local added: “Those dogs were always growling and barking in that tiny house. All the local kids were scared stiff of them.”
Oliver Carrick, 15, added: “They’re really mean dogs — they’re never let out of the garden and nobody goes in there.”
The dogs belonged to Kimberley’s mum Beverley. Both were in the house during the attack. Mrs Concannon is a breeder who sells Staffordshire bull terrier pups for up to £200 and has a Facebook page full of fierce-looking dogs.
She tells on her page how her favourite mastiff was so aggressive she had to have him castrated.The amazing fact that someone can apparently afford to keep five large, powerful, expensive breeds in a tiny council house:
Police said officers were confronted by the aggressive dogs – two bull mastiffs and two Staffordshire bull terriers – when they responded to reports of an unconscious girl at a property on the Hagford Estate in Atherton, near Wigan, yesterday afternoon.The total lack of control the owners had over these beasts, and their desire to save their own skin when it all goes pear-shaped:
Molly Brewer, 14, one of Jade’s fellow pupils at Fred Longworth High School in Tyldesley said she had spoken to Kimberley’s distraught sister Katrina.
She said: “Jade was eating a pie which she had in her hand. She moved the pie away and the dog went for her throat.
"Then two other dogs were on top of her and biting her legs. Katrina was crying and then went into the house.”She was another minor, it's true. But the adult showed a similar lack of responsibility:
One local said: “We spoke to Kimberley’s twin sister Katrina who told us that after the attack her mum ran off.
“No one has seen her since. She is scared she’ll be attacked because the dogs killed Jade.”The amazing vitality of these breeds when their blood is up (or the abysmal marksmanship of police 'marksmen', take your pick...):
“We believe the biggest dog took about nine bullets before it died.”The classic phrase used about the victim or perpetrator:
A neighbour said: ‘It’s such a tragedy. Jade was a loveable rogue who liked a laugh and a joke. She was a lovely girl.’The inevitable demands from MPs for 'something to be done' (that 'something' almost certainly collective punishment for owners who don't post a threat that will be ignored or not enforced on the underclass scum):
Speaking to The Independent last night, the Labour MP for Bolton West, Julie Hilling, said the attack should prompt moves to “strengthen the law” around dangerous dogs on social housing estates.
“There are real problems with dangerous dogs and we need to have stronger legislation to control these animals when they are in private property. This is a terrible tragedy and my thoughts are with the family.”All we are missing is the inevitable chavshrine, and I'm sure that's well under way by the time the post goes up...
The "chavshrine" is way ahead of you JM ;0)
ReplyDeletehttp://www.facebook.com/RipJadeAnderson?ref=ts&fref=ts
I haven't bothered reading any of the comments - the heading is emetic enough for this time of the morning
All we are missing is the inevitable chavshrine, and I'm sure that's well under way by the time the post goes up...
ReplyDeleteNo much classier. They're letting off Chinese lanterns, according to the radio this morning. Straight into the flight path of planes going into Manchester Airport, probably.
Nothing's going to change until somebody who is responsible for such dogs - and, by extension, the actions of such dogs - gets prosecuted and harshly punished (and I don't mean a suspended 2-year incarceration). If, for instance, Mrs Concannon were banged up for 15 years (ie a 30-year sentence) on the basis of both supplying and storing the equivalent of dangerous weapons and, possibly, as an accessory to manslaughter, maybe a genuine "lesson would be learned". As it is Mrs C will only suffer the loss of her dogs and . . er . . that's it.
ReplyDeleteI would add that the possibility of such prosecutions, let alone severe sentencing, is inconceivable. If Mrs C gets prosecuted for anything it'll be something to do with cruelty to the dogs rather than as an enabler of psychopathic chavism.
Poor girl.
ReplyDeleteIrresponsible parenting again no doubt.
I thought there was a tenancy agreement with most people about the amount of animals you could have? Never mind, crap all round.
Just been reviewing the news. He's alright that David Miliband. He will change a lot of people's lives. He's a very bright bloke and done everything in the right way he has had to. He knows his path now.
Good luck my son.
Fidel,
ReplyDeleteyou don't know what you're missing:
Steve Anderson I would just like to say that the dogs are the killers, dogs shouldn't be owned.
Lisa Jaycock Im heart broken the most awful way t die nd such a young beautiful girl. The dogs shud b distroyed nd the owner t do a sentence which is ultimatly a murder charge
Samantha Hughes Can any of u quit the blame deal!a young innocent girl has lost her life weather u think its the owners or the dogs to blame the police wil take action!have respect!
Melissa Blondii Anderton RIP jade you was a pritty girl everyone loved you and i carnt find the words that say how much everyone misses you but you are with the angles now they will look after you ! gone but never forgotten xx and your mum and dsd will be proud of you ! :,(
20R I m sitng hear with teers in my I's, Respect In Paece
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/business/inventor-unveils-all-in-one-portable-tragedy-shrine-201009083072
ReplyDeleteMy first post.
Out in the sticks.
Isn't it about time councils banned their tenants from keeping dogs on the premises?
ReplyDelete@Twenty_Rothmans
ReplyDeleteYou really shouldn't encourage me - I may have to go and add my own personal tribute now
*grins evilly*
I'd like to offer some words of sympathy to the family... but I can't. I'm still laughing about the fact this Wigan girl was eating a pie. Some stereotypes transcend tragedy.
ReplyDelete"I'd like to offer some words of sympathy to the family... but I can't."
ReplyDeleteMaybe that's because you are a wanker?
@ John Pickworth
ReplyDelete"I'm still laughing about the fact this Wigan girl was eating a pie."
When recovered, try reading the news of Tennessee cancer sufferer, Katelyn Norman. That is certain to have you in stitches, old sport.
@Anonymous, re Portagrief in the Mash:
ReplyDeleteThe only thing it misses is a widget to create a Farsebook tribute page and populate it with comments such as:
I didn't know u but u r now another angle in Heavin to protect us
The fact the the grief page was created by someone who didn't know the victim says it all.
@Fidel
Someone said "Your family must be in bits". Poor choice of words.
Where to start?
ReplyDeleteA few people (including Mr Loophole Nick Freeman) have come out in defence of the Staffordshire Bull terrier breed, claiming their dogs are soft and friendly. No surprise because they are responsible owners.
More people saying that it is always Staffordshire Bull terrier that bite and poodles never do.
No surprise there because the chavs who want a dangerous dog as a status symbol would not choose a poodle. If they did, we would be reading of poodle attacks. And if anyone was to be bitten by a Standard Poodle they would know all about it.
The biggest loophole (flaw) in the dangerous dogs act is that it does not work in private, so a prosecution is unlikely. The previous 1871 Dogs Act does work in private but it only forces the dog to be muzzled or destroyed. It cannot punish the owner.
But 140 yrs ago,when the law was introduced and perhaps 20 yrs ago when the dangerous dogs act was introduced, there were less chavs.
Anonymous said...
ReplyDelete"Maybe that's because you are a wanker?"
A damn good one too, I have certificates an' everything.
I presume your barb was because I haven't shown the due levels of 'Diana-esque' public grief, with added wailing and moaning for effect? If so, let me know when its convenient and I'll see if I can feign some sobbing and a mini-breakdown for your delectation. It can't be that difficult; hundreds of people whom have never met this girl seem to be managing to do it... Impressively, they've even turned Facebook and the street gutters into gardens of remembrance. Respect.
The girl may have been a useless chav who`s premature death has saved the taxpayer the cost of a house and paying for 5 kids but being savaged to death by 5 large dogs isnt something i`d wish on anyone.
ReplyDelete"The "chavshrine" is way ahead of you JM"
ReplyDeleteUgh!
"No much classier. They're letting off Chinese lanterns../"
Double ugh!
"Nothing's going to change until somebody who is responsible for such dogs - and, by extension, the actions of such dogs - gets prosecuted and harshly punished..."
Unlikely. Who gets 'harshly punished' any more? For anything?
"I thought there was a tenancy agreement with most people about the amount of animals you could have?"
ReplyDeleteThey are only enforced on little old ladies with too many cats, never chavmums... :/
"Isn't it about time councils banned their tenants from keeping dogs on the premises?"
No. I'm not in favour of collective punishment. Why should the elderly widow with an arthritic Peke suffer?
" I'm still laughing about the fact this Wigan girl was eating a pie. Some stereotypes transcend tragedy."
We're BOTH going to Hell... :)
"But 140 yrs ago,when the law was introduced and perhaps 20 yrs ago when the dangerous dogs act was introduced, there were less chavs."
ReplyDeleteIt's 'fewer'. But other than that, SPOT ON!
"...but being savaged to death by 5 large dogs isnt something i`d wish on anyone."
Except maybe the owner?
What a disappointing (nay disgusting) series of comments.
ReplyDeleteIf it was my blog I would block them. Ban them. I know this is a bit Stasi, rather Big Gov't, issuing bans hither and thither but you see if people can't behave then they get the gov't they deserve.
Where to begin? Let's name those without sin who feel they can cast stones:
Fidel never-had-his-leg-over-in-a-decade-or-more (and if he has, the object of his desires would probably be enough to make a pit-bull terrier flee in horror). What a nasty piece of work he is. Seems like he's known in the blogosphere for foul behaviour though, as evidenced by comments 10 and 11. Plus some comments in reply to him on another blog story of yours.
His mate Twenty Rothmans (how very highbrow) is little better. I wonder if they have 14 year old daughters? It's unlikely isn't it? And if they have ..... imagine what well-adjusted young women they will be.
John Pickworth: Credit that he at least uses what might be his real name. There the credit ends. A simple geography lesson for John. Atherton happens to be in the unfortunate position of being forced (in 1974 when its own rather decent urban district council was disbanded) to be part of Wigan MBC. It isn't however 'in Wigan' as such, merely dominated (and repeatedly run down) by the socialists who run the Council. Besides, the victim of this story only moved to the area last year, being previously a resident of Manchester. So there you see ........ unless you want to go on believing everything you read in 'The Sun'. Probably you do. It probably goes with the territory of laughing at a dead teenage girl because her last act was eating a pie. Though of course she didn't eat it - the dogs did, immediately before they tried to eat her. Hilarious isn't it? Good to hear he has cert's in wanking anyway. He can join his friend Fidel and they can circle-jerk together. Where else would they get their kicks anyway - apart from laughing at dead teenagers?
Priceless is his comment that attempts to justify his ghoulish humour by pointing out that many of the comments on FB et al are by people who don't know the victim. But I hardly think that John knows the victim either. That isn't going to stop him making comments of his own though eh? Of a somewhat different flavour to the condolences, faux or not. Well done John.
It's a good scene, this pro-British, Libertarian movement. Unfortunately you're going to get folk who prove the stereotypical view (often but not always unfounded) that the movement consists of such people who are still the same old heartless Tories and Daily Fail or Sun readers. This is one reason why the Conservatives and/or UKIP are always going to struggle. They see such people and then tar everyone in the party(s)with the same brush. Good work again boys.
Ah well, my rant must end. I have an appointemt in Hell to keep myself. Let's hope I'm there when these lot arrive, or at least I arrive soon after them. Did I mention I'm a blacksmith and have been promised a job there? Being good with flames and hot irons and such you see. Sithee soon boys!
Julia - I realise this story is now 'old news' and my comment might not be seen by our brave libertarians. Do be a dear and make sure it's passed along to them.
Paul.
"If it was my blog I would block them. Ban them. "
ReplyDeleteIt's not.
And you may not see any value it their comments, but can you say they are wrong about the (very unflattering) picture of modern life this particular story represents?
I certainly can't...
"...but you see if people can't behave then they get the gov't they deserve."
Who decides what constitutes 'behaving'? You? Me?
"John Pickworth: Credit that he at least uses what might be his real name."
Says a person posting as 'anonymous' and giving only his first name. O, irony!
" This is one reason why the Conservatives and/or UKIP are always going to struggle. They see such people and then tar everyone in the party(s)with the same brush."
A very simple piece of political analysis. 3/10, must do better.
XX All the local kids were scared stiff of them.” XX
ReplyDeleteGOOD!!!!
@Paul
ReplyDeleteChortle :0)
"Says a person posting as 'anonymous' and giving only his first name. O, irony!"
ReplyDeleteIt is highly probable that Paul uses his real name. Perhaps you have confused a meaning with WC Jaded's understanding of irony; you know, the chore of 'straightening things out'. ;)
Dear Paul,
ReplyDeleteall I did was quote other people (apart from my own contribution which did not go on the Farsebook tribute, but would have gone under the radar) and bemoan the Dianafication of any tragedy that occurs. I'm flattered that you singled me out, though.
You are right. I do not have a fourteen year old daughter. I sold her when she was nine.
I am always intrigued by people who wander in somewhere and then complain because it's not to their liking. Do you count your rosary beads when you march with the Orange Order?
Through a miracle of 21st-century technology, you can easily banish those with whom you disagree (because you are, of course, always right) by Going Away.
Julia - thanks for publishing. I didn't know it wasn't your blog. Am I correct in saying you moderate it? That's the implication beneath this reply box. I suspect you're being a little evasive and attempting to shirk some responsibility. Oh well, at least this isn't court and evidence, where you would obviously do the right thing and tell the whole truth.
ReplyDeleteI agree that the story presents an unflattering picture of modern life but I fail to see how laughing at the plight of the most unfortunate person featured in this story improves upon that. In fact (priceless irony again) the comments kind of prove your exact words. Chavs on a council estate or laughing at dead girls - take your pick - they're both modern British traits.
Who decides behaving? Really Julia? Common decency? Custom and culture? Don't mock the dead? You're pretending to be unaware of those things? You're beginning to sound ridiculous.
Sorry about the anon bit then. Paul is my real name though. That's all you're getting. Better than Fidel Playground Name though innit? And is that the best you can do regarding my reply to John? 1 out of 10 ma'am.
'They' did of course mean blinkered Labour voters. In two years time or less, this blog will be aflame asking 'WHY?'
Paul.
"Julia - thanks for publishing. I didn't know it wasn't your blog. Am I correct in saying you moderate it? That's the implication beneath this reply box. I suspect you're being a little evasive and attempting to shirk some responsibility."
ReplyDeleteCalm your fevered brow, 'Paul' and put away your Bumper Book Of Conspiracy Theories - you said 'If it was my blog...' and that's what the 'It isn't' refers to.
Too subtle for you?
"Who decides behaving? Really Julia? Common decency? Custom and culture? Don't mock the dead?"
I'm with Al on that one.
The Diana-esque display of public grief nauseates me even when it is (somewhat) deserved.
@Twenty_Rothmans
ReplyDeleteYou are right. I do not have a fourteen year old daughter. I sold her when she was nine
But did she eat Pies?
Through a miracle of 21st-century technology, you can easily banish those with whom you disagree (because you are, of course, always right) by Going Away
No, don't chase him away - I sense hours of fun here
XX "Isn't it about time councils banned their tenants from keeping dogs on the premises?" XX
ReplyDeleteBut then, where would chavs be ABLE to keep their "wives"?
Thanks again Julia.
ReplyDeleteI am called Paul you know. No need for quote marks around my name. Next, I'll be thinking you're into conspiracies.
You got me on the blog ownership anyway. Doh! The perils of incomplete explanations, bound by 4000 odd characters allowed.
I read Al's article of course. He has a point but I'm sure you can see mine. I wouldn't go falsely eulogising on FB but I wouldn't log onto the internet to engage in mockery either. Both activities seem to be two sides of the same coin. Still, no crime has been committed and if it makes you happy......
Twenty fags is always 'intrigued'. Really that's just a complete lie. There's no furrowed brow and deep thought. He's likely just a bully of some sort.
Just because a person disagrees with a sentiment doesn't imply that person considers themself always right. You must know this. Once again, you prove by your words something else you would otherwise rail against. Don't you have a mirror at home?
Looks like Fidel and I could embark 'pon a merry old game. Alas I've probably not got the time he has to troll the internet looking for easy targets, such as dead teenage girls. Then again, it could provide some amusement for me for a while so I may make him a minor project for the near future. Where else does he hang out?
It's a bit sad though eh? Still, one must take one's fun where one can in an increasingly grey nation. And I do like deconstructing knob-heads. It's a civic duty almost, for the good of all of us.
I'll make a more relevant post next.
Paul.
Enough of the falling out.
ReplyDeleteWhy has nobody, here or within the ranks of the police or any other authority, mentioned the obvious? I mean in regard to whether offences have been committed.
The owner (of the dogs) is plainly using those dogs for breeding purposes, with some regularity. She even advertises them on FB and is 'well known' in the area for dog-breeding. She won't be doing it for fun, rather for a handsome profit, likely to amount to thousands of ££s per annum.
She's on state benefits. She's almost certainly not registered with the IR as any kind of business and won't be declaring any income to them. She's running a business from a council property. She's likely in breach of various other regs relating to noise, nuisance and public health. I know we don't like a million regulations but come on now.
As far as I'm aware there is a prohibition by Wigan MBC against any of their tenants keeping more than two dogs. This may only apply to flats, not houses - which seems rather foolish. It is however Wigan after all.
Why isn't she being busted by the DSS (or whatever they're now called), the taxman and the council? It's the first thing I thought of rather than some Dangerous Dogs Act, which we know likely doesn't apply here.
Paul.
You make good points with class and style, Paul.
ReplyDeleteI credit the Wigan team of Housing bureaucrats with having the battle half-won. Millions have bee invested in policy documents and handouts, covering every pet combination from Aardvarks to Zebu, in every tenancy from Allotments to Zenana. Think of the additional cost of enforcement at a time when they are cutting back to the toughest abdominal fat.
Thank-you MTG
ReplyDeleteI have to be careful here.
In my opinion Wigan Council are corrupt. Criminally so. I have evidence, more than circumstancial, that would suggest they have been engaged in attempted and actual fraud. Theft in other words. On a vast scale too. They tried it on me but didn't bargain for tenacity and a 1970s mathematics O level. When I raised questions they dropped the matter like a hot spud and fled for the hills - or at least the Pier which is where lots of them hang out.
Having said that I admit I'm somewhat afraid of pursuing it further. Craven I know. They have vast resources though, compared to me and are liable to ruin me if I was unassisted. I could rely on the justice system and the word of good Englishmen. Hmmm. I did mention it to an aspiring Councillor and he agreed ... but wouldn't take it on.
Sorry for drifting off topic. Nobody else has replied to the points I raised in my last post. Maybe they haven't seen it. Maybe it's less interesting than that which they saw fit to comment upon. Maybe they're just weary of asking the precise same type of questions. I sympathise if so.
I've spent today forging some new tongs. Wolf-jaw tongs in fact. They look marvellously medieval. Particularly good I reckon for gripping Council officials.
I spend enough time day-dreaming however...
Paul.
" The perils of incomplete explanations, bound by 4000 odd characters allowed."
ReplyDeleteThink of all the fun & trouble you could get into on Twitter!
"I'll make a more relevant post next."
Comment. You'll make a more relevant comment. Posts are wot I write...
"Why isn't she being busted by the DSS (or whatever they're now called), the taxman and the council?"
Hey, you managed it! ;)
I'd hazard a guess because she's small fry and, prior to this, never came to their attention.
"Comment. You'll make a more relevant comment. Posts are wot I write..."
ReplyDeleteNope. You write, or cut and paste the topics/articles written by others, Julia. Postin is wot we all dus innit.
Twitter is for dumb-asses Julia. At least that's what I gather from what I see and have heard. You're familiar with it then?
ReplyDeleteComment, post.....? Is it really that big a deal? I'm sure you know what I meant, as would others but I suppose pedantry is a new virtue in the interweb age.
I'm old-fashioned, in an old-fashioned, nay ancient, trade. I can scrabble my way round the internet but haven't penetrated the wonders of Twitter alas.
I think next time I will say 'composition' which will nostalgically remind me of the English O level and happy schooldays.
I've managed eh? Managed what? Nonetheless I now feel rather important and pleased with myself.
Small fry, never came to their attention: I know plenty of fry who have been bullied by the state. The smaller they are, the worse the bullying is often the case. And it means that they aren't doing their job, if people like this so easily slip under their radar. The woman is brazenly advertising the fact. Still, I have the terrible feeling you are correct.
Take it on and do something about it, purleeze. You probably have more time and resources than I. You have all the evidence you need. Do the decent thing, for all of us.
Paul.
Bad news MTG. You can NOT be a total arsehole ALL your life.
ReplyDeleteTry coming to "the other side", once in a while.
Hmm. so MTG's new name is "Paul"... stop talking to yourself Melvyn.
ReplyDelete@ FT
ReplyDeleteFor once, you are absolutely correct. A total anus, or an anus in isolation if you will, must by definition be stripped of its basic function. Thus it is debatable whether the remaining annular structure is now sufficient to satisfy your perverse ancillary use of it.
I will be giving much consideration to your boundless sagacity over Easter. In addition to self-flagellation, I have decided to renounce commenting and never return to the internet.
Ein glückliches Ostern, mein Führer. XX
Melvyn isn't Paul, nor vice-versa. I think you're paranoid. Too much cocaine maybe? Something like that anyway, some drug or another. Maybe just righteous indignation and moral outrage, the strongest drug of all.
ReplyDeleteMTG - these lot are hilarious. How do you cope?
Paul - who really is Paul.
"MTG - these lot are hilarious. How do you cope?"
ReplyDeleteGood morning, Paul. The internet denies bullet speed put-downs to silence the cretinous heckler.
Interestingly, our natural resistance can diminish to a point of plod troll dependency. Beware of the addiction, my friend :)
Na Melvyn... sorry "Paul", keep up with your Namenda(memantine), Maybe you shoulöd ask your doctor to increase the dosage.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous (aka Paul) said...
ReplyDelete"What a disappointing (nay disgusting) series of comments.
If it was my blog I would block them. Ban them. I know this is a bit Stasi...
Stasi? I was thinking more Frankie Howerd. Titter ye not.
I have to say, you do seem rather fixated on dead teenage girls... perhaps you have others buried in your cellar? Tip: Consider using the loft, apparently the cops never look there.
But seriously, are you really saying my comment was inappropriate because of some past local authority boundary change? That my Wigan joke doesn't work because, well, it wasn't actually properly Wigan? Maybe in future I should check the Electoral Register before commenting; request copies of birth certificates just in case the subject was born in Rutland, Middlesex, Atlantis, Middle Earth, Narnia or other places of yore?
Anyway, must dash... corpses don't get poked with sticks on their own you know.
Someöne here shoulöd go tö Specsavers.
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