Oh..?
Not because she got catastrophically drunk and fell asleep in the bed of a private home, instead of the seaside B&B she'd booked into?
Mr Jones added that Redfern's actions were 'utterly gratuitous' and 'totally unjustified'.I wonder how Mr Jones would react coming home to find a drunken stranger in his bed?
In a tribute her family said: 'Margaret was a devoted wife, and the best mother, grandmother and sister anyone could ask for. She always had a smile on her face and was always caring, loving and willing to help anyone especially her family who she cherished.
'She has been cruelly taken from us far too early. She will be sorely missed and we can honestly say that our lives without her will never be the same again.'She was 71, FFS! And does anyone really think getting so blotto she'd no idea where she was was totally out of character..?
I can't believe this trial is scheduled to take three weeks...
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Three weeks sounds about right for the jury to hear all the tributes to the victim and visit the shrine on the seafront. As for the man involved, I wouldn't want to live next door to him.
"and the best mother, grandmother..."
I thought she'd be in her 30s, reading that
"Drunk female staycationer..."
This gets on me tits. Staycationers stay at home. People who travel to B+Bs are holidaymakers. Urg!
As much as the woman was undoubtedly at fault...are you seriously suggesting that the response being alleged was appropriate?
Hi Geoffers,
I think so. She needed to be dragged out of bed and kicked out, along with her luggage, and if she resisted, the violence was appropriate.
Definitely a case for manslaughter here. You can eject an unwanted interloper without killing them. Given that this was an elderly woman, it didn't need that level of force.
MANslaughter? THEYslaughter, surely.
The thing I don't understand about this is 'how did she get into the wrong house', did she pick the lock or was the door unlocked? The guy doesn't seem to be the type of person that would go out and leave the house unlocked.
"As for the man involved, I wouldn't want to live next door to him."
I wouldn't want to judge someone on their immediate and adrenaline-fuelled reaction to an intruder...
"I thought she'd be in her 30s, reading that"
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"This gets on me tits. Staycationers stay at home. People who travel to B+Bs are holidaymakers."
I think it simply means she didn't go abroad. Barmouth's gain is clearly Torremolinos' loss...
"As much as the woman was undoubtedly at fault...are you seriously suggesting that the response being alleged was appropriate?"
Who is to say what's 'appropriate' when you find a drunken stranger in your house at dead of night?
"You can eject an unwanted interloper without killing them. "
You can, yes. But I think the jury should consider what they might do should they be in a similar position. Rational thought months after the fact doesn't necessarily square with the emotions at the time of discovery.
"The thing I don't understand about this is 'how did she get into the wrong house', did she pick the lock or was the door unlocked? The guy doesn't seem to be the type of person that would go out and leave the house unlocked."
That's puzzled me from the start too. And none of the news reports seem to have mentioned it.
Dragging an elderly lady, drunk or sober, down a flight of stairs by the ankles is way out of order.
The guy sounds like a psycho and certainly not a gentleman, though not all Barmouth holidaymakers are ladies.
An (admittedly very foolish) friend of my daughters got paralytic and lost in Liverpool of all places - she ended up knocking on a total strangers door at 2 a.m. for help. Could have been very bad if she'd got the wrong door.
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