Friday 13 February 2015

Essex Police Strike Again…

“I asked if they had tracked the number it was supposed to have come from and they said no. I don’t think they knew what to say to me.
“I presumed she had shown them her phone, but they had no evidence, no witnesses, nothing.
“The interview didn’t go on very long.”
Well, no. One wonders why they arrested you at all.

Still, they got your DNA & fingerprints. Maybe that’s what they were really after?
When police decided not to take the case further, Mrs Sales was adamant she did not want her niece to try again, and pressured police to press charges against her for perverting the course of justice.
Pankhurst protested her innocence when questioned in September, and continued to do so until she appeared at Basildon Crown Court on January 5, when she admitted the charge against her.
/facepalm

8 comments:

Anonymous said...

I assume you bothered to read the comments Julia? The first poster is almost exactly what I would put.
She got treated no differently to anyone else arrested.
You can't have your cake and eat it-I seem to recall you criticising Essex police for not taking a domestic threat seriously and when someone got killed you jumped on the bandwagon.

As for the constant jibe about only wanting her fingerprints and DNA-who do you think passed that law in Parliament? I do not give a damn if we have every one on the database or not.
Jaded

Anonymous said...

Jaded,

You a demand a respect as an officer which is not due, because of your drone-like inability to disobey illegal orders.

What would happen if someone made a completely unsubstantiated, uncorroborated allegation against, say, you?

Would you be arrested, processed and detained for hours, clothed in detention uniform, housed with common criminals, have your biometrics farmed, then be patted on the head and told to piss off when found to be 100% innocent?

You know you wouldn't, most likely wouldn't even if you had committed the offence.

It's the 'us and them' thing, coupled with the smug arrogance and gross incompetence of those who whine about 'just doing my job', that grates so much, and, in the end, will completely kill the goodwill of the public you desperately, desperately need.

Arresting people BEFORE investigating is just plain stupid, a bit like you I suppose.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous at 1223,let me answer some of your points.
I never demand respect,never ask for it but I would like it now and again.
I never obey drone-like orders.I have a reputation on my team for being a bit rebellious.The mistake you are making is assuming that every police officer is the same and a mistake by one is a mistake by all.We are individuals.
No I probably wouldn't be treated the same as this woman,rightly or wrongly I may get some professional courtesy as I am not a flight risk.
The detention uniform would have been a new clean top.Her clothing with string or ties etc would have been confiscated in case of suicide attempts.Standard procedure.
Housed with common criminals-she would have had a single cell.You are watching too many American cop shows.We don't have special holding areas for people arrested who are quite nice.
Was she patted on the head and told to piss off?No.
I am neither smug,arrogant or incompetent.Some of my colleagues are-a small minority-but that's the same in any job.Reading blogs like this and the Daily Mail you would think everything we do is wrong but they only highlight the tiny amount of times we get things wrong and not the vast amount we get right.
I am also not plain stupid,you've never met me or seen me at work so that was just silly.Perhaps after reading your one post I could make sweeping statements about you?
Any further help you need then i'm here all week.
Jaded.

Anonymous said...

Jaded,

I've noticed you're here quite a lot, and I've read your nonsense for quite a while, so my statements are based on my observations of your stupidity, and as I said previously, your smug arrogance, defending the inepitude and the often criminal behaviour of your colleagues, even admitting to it yourself, on occassion.

You admit you would receive special treatment, because you are one of the boys. Peel was a fan of the police being the public, and vice versa. You reveal, both in your words on these pages and your recollections of events whilst on duty, that this is no longer the case, the Police are more equal than the public, who seem to be regarded by your associates as mostly just criminals that have not been caught yet, best to nick 'em anyway, just to be on the safe side, to protect the...well...erm, the public?

There was a time when I viewed the police as my friend, deserving of respect, welcome to my assistance, if I was able to give it. Not now, not on your nelly. Incidents like the one in the blog post, and your attitude towards it are just two more nails in the coffin of public assistance, and more importantly consent, driven home by unthinking automatons like yourself.

Anonymous said...

Let's agree to disagree.
You can base your opinions on extremely biased media outlets whilst I base mine on 25 years of front-line experience.
Police are not perfect.I come on here now and again to explain and sometimes defend my colleagues.If they have done wrong-for example visiting the newsagents selling the French magazines-I don't defend that stupidity.
You're not related to MTG are you? He seems to have been very quiet of late.
Jaded.

Anonymous said...

Jaded,

I have no idea who MTG is.

You could always illegally access the PNC to try and find him, but you'd never do that sort of thing, would you?

:-)

Anonymous said...

Bunny

The point of arrest is not that they think someone is guilty but it sets of a chain of legal safeguards for the accused, being arrested for something does not mean the accused is considered guilty.

However the farming of DNA records is another thing altogether.

JuliaM said...

"As for the constant jibe about only wanting her fingerprints and DNA-who do you think passed that law in Parliament?"

Just 'following orders', eh?

"There was a time when I viewed the police as my friend, deserving of respect, welcome to my assistance, if I was able to give it. Not now, not on your nelly. "

Sadly, I agree. The good ones seem to be the 'tiny minority' that Jaded talks about.

"You're not related to MTG are you? He seems to have been very quiet of late."

He has, hasn't he?

"...being arrested for something does not mean the accused is considered guilty."

Indeed it doesn't, but given the fact of arrest affects a lot of things now (application for visa, etc) it should be used more cautiously.