Friday 4 June 2010

So, What’s An ‘Offensive Comment’?

Because, in order to be convicted of it under UK law, you’d think it’s have to be pretty obscene. The sort of language I couldn’t repeat here.

Well, not quite:
Ian Evans, of Compton Road, Colchester, admitted making offensive comments to train guard Darren Williams when he asked to see his photo card.
The offensive comment in question? Well, hold onto your hats…
Colchester Magistrates’ Court heard Evans, 40, said “hello Shrek” when Mr Williams asked to see his pass on the 5.45pm Clacton to Liverpool Street train.

In a statement, read out in court, Mr Williams, said: “I found this offensive, as the character is 6ft, green and repulsive.

“I asked him not to call me that again, and his reply was ‘sorry Shrek’.”
At this stage, I’m not sure a magistrate’s court is the right destination for these sort of things.

Perhaps detention and a clip round the ear?
Evans, who represented himself, at the hearing on Wednesday, said he made the comments because Mr Williams had not asked him politely.

He added: “If someone is polite to me, I’ll be polite back.

“I felt victimised by this gentleman.

“I don’t see why I should always be asked for my photo ID when other people on the train are not.”
He may have a point. This may well be a case of ‘big uniform, little man’ syndrome, as outlined by BlueEyes in the comments here.

And I’ve been known to issue a tart rebuke to any inspector mumbling ‘ticket!’ under their breath without a 'please' too…
Chief magistrate Andrew Schooler said: “There is clearly a history here between you and the railway.

“It will become very expensive for you if it doesn’t stop.”
Frankly, this sort of thing is already expensive for us, the taxpayer.

And this taxpayer would like it to stop.

8 comments:

Mr Eugenides said...

I laughed out loud at this.

Bucko said...

Sorry Shrek. LOL

Old BE said...

My name in lights!

So what was the offence this chap was charged with? Section 5? Surely not.

Antisthenes said...

There is a sadder and a serious side to this. It illuminates how resigned we are in accepting the low standards and values of our society. Also the lack of motivation to do something about it, a start in the right direction would be zero tolerance of rudeness and bad behaviour.

Jiks said...

Rather than a "be zero tolerance of rudeness and bad behaviour" I'd rather see a zero tolerance for perfectly normal behaviour being treated as thought crimes or a chance to sue for imagined "hurt".

I suspect there is no human interaction that someone, somewhere couldn't find offensive in some way if they really tried. Currently people of a certain ilk try very hard to be offended as the system rewards that. Solution IMO is to get rid of all this PC bollocks and people generally grow a slightly thicker skin.

Antisthenes said...

Jiks, If standards and values were higher you would not get this situation arising not from anything as petty as this anyway. As for PC nobody would tolerate that either as that is another symptom of low standards and values. However what I am saying is if we are going to raise standards the point to start is from zero tolerance.

MTG said...

Blue Eyes - proceedings under Railway Byelaw 6 were easy enough to bring against this chap. The byelaw lists 'unnacceptable behaviour' as an offence.

'Unnacceptable behaviour' is anything the rail operator says it is. Where many of us would stand our ground, he pleaded guilty to quickly get his case ogre.

JuliaM said...

"I laughed out loud at this."

So did I at first. Then I realised who was paying the bill for this grown-up nursery dispute...

"Where many of us would stand our ground, he pleaded guilty to quickly get his case ogre."

*groan*

:D