Monday, 26 November 2012

I Guess Wales Are Behind The Times..?

In Gloucester, praise for a man defending his home:
Heroic father Amgad Ahmed has spoken of the moment he tackled a burglar to the ground and sat on him while his family slept upstairs.
He has been praised by a judge and given a cash reward for his bravery in "frightening circumstances" after he overpowered intruder Brian Wing when he crept into his Overbury Road home through an unlocked patio door.
In Wales, arrest for a man defending his mum’s home:
Vaughan Jones, 39, from Bargoed, in Gwent, South Wales jumped into action when his widowed mother heard a thief burgling her family home.
He called police before dashing around to help his mother Eleanor, 65, and confronted the burglar in a hand-to-hand struggle.
But the dad-of-three was left shocked when officers arrived and arrested him for allegedly assaulting the thief.
So…what’s the difference? Well, it seems the Welsh CPS at least have got the memo, if not the Heddlu:
And he was only released when the Crown Prosecution Service advised police not to press charges.
They needed such advice?
A spokesman said: 'When officers attend a live, ongoing situation they often have to take quick and decisive action based on what they are faced with to defuse the situation, ensure the safety of all involved and to maximise opportunities to gather evidence.
'Further enquiries follow, enabling officers to establish a fuller picture of what has taken place.'
Translation: ‘Look, we’re just simple souls, we are barely capable of nicking everyone in sight until someone brighter than us turns up and tells us who is the guilty party.’

Really, Welsh cops? Is that how you want to be seen by the public?

12 comments:

Furor Teutonicus said...

Would it be overly cynical to ask if it could POSSIBLY have anything to do with the fact that in the first case, the name would tend to indicate, that it was "not quite white"?

Able said...

FT

Exactly my first thought.

Great minds think alike (Ok I may be stretching things a little in claiming i have a Great mind, but don't shatter my illusions). Either that or I'm just as cynical as you are.

Jim said...

A similar reaction was noticed during the London Riots last year. When Turkish shop keepers in Wood Green defended their shops by force it was praised as 'community cohesion'. When white people did the same in Enfield it was 'vigilantism', and condemned by the police.

James Higham said...

Having a certain amount to do with the Welsh on a weekly basis, there is a certainly a good case that they are.

MTG said...

White, non-Muslim, courageous taxpayer requests plod assistance to deal with an intruder at his elderly Mother's home?

Intelligent, hard working pillars of society are unlikely to repeat such a serious error of judgement.

Furor Teutonicus said...

XX White, non-Muslim, courageous taxpayer requests plod assistance to deal with an intruder at his elderly Mother's home?

Intelligent, hard working pillars of society are unlikely to repeat such a serious error of judgement. XX

THAT is the third time in the last three months, I have agreed with you Melvyn.

Either I am becoming soft, or ....Na. I don't know what, but you must admit, it is....unusual! :-)

John Pickworth said...

"... have to take quick and decisive action based on what they are faced with to defuse the situation"

Oh, I would have assumed the cars with the blue flashing lights, nee-nahhs and driven by officers in uniform might have defused things somewhat?

Okay, how about the police's highly honed deductive skills when questioning the occupants? "I'm the householder's son" says man comforting victim. And "I'm the burgler" says man with stripy jersey, sack marked 'swag' and a bloody nose.

Alright then, lets say it was better to sort this down the station. Short statement from victim confirms Son's statement and identity. Lift home in police car about 30 mins later. No arrest, no charges, no fax/email from CPS several weeks/months down the line.

JuliaM said...

"Would it be overly cynical to ask..."

Nope! :)

"A similar reaction was noticed during the London Riots last year."

Oh yes, indeed. That one's going to live in infamy, isn't it?

"Alright then, lets say it was better to sort this down the station. Short statement from victim confirms Son's statement and identity. Lift home in police car about 30 mins later. "

Cue police weeping and wailing that they have to 'follow procedure' re arresting.

In which case, if they are just mindless automatons following a laid-down procedure, they're paid too much.

Anonymous said...

Dear Miss Predator

And another nice set of prints and a DNA sample to fill that empty looking database. 4 million plus down, only 48 million to go ...

Is it not time that the police were charged with wasting police time?

Or do they all have "get out of jail free" cards?

DP

Anonymous said...

Perhaps the Officer on the ground has been so browbeaten by non-stop criticism that he regards it as an arse covering decision in these matters.

It is not the Police's job to determine guilt, they are to carry out an impartial investigtion.

Common-sense policing does not get career-driven people promoted. We voted in New Labour who turned the police into 'politiclly correct automatons'. Is it the Police's fault, New Labours, or the public who voted for it?

Furor Teutonicus said...

XX
Alright then, lets say it was better to sort this down the station. Short statement from victim confirms Son's statement and identity. Lift home in police car about 30 mins later. No arrest, no charges, no fax/email from CPS several weeks/months down the line. XX

Weeelll....

Take the bastard briglar in, and the statement can be taken from the victim, and his son, at home over a nice cup of tea. No need to take THOSE two anywhere.

That is always how it WAS done. When did it change?

Furor Teutonicus said...

Bastard BURGLAR that should be.... sorry, Loooonnnggg day.