Monday 3 December 2012

What The State Granteth, Why Cannot The State Not Taketh Away?

A British citizen who posed as a struggling asylum seeker so he could claim more than £10,000 in crisis loans has been jailed.
What sort of British citizen?
The court heard Hassan arrived in the UK in 1990, sought asylum in 1991, committed his first criminal offence in 1994 and was granted British citizenship in 2000.
Ah. Right. No wonder we are the laughing stock of the world…
The court heard he offended just four months after being released from a 12-month prison sentence for fraudulently obtaining £45,000 in benefits.
In his home country of Somalia, what’s the punishment for being a persistent offender, I wonder?
Miss Chamberlain said her client hoped to reapply for his driving licence and realised if he didn't change his ways he would be in a cycle of returning to prison "over and over again".
Well, only if they keep catching him, I suppose…

But look at that timeline again – arrived here, claimed asylum, began a life of crime and yet was STILL granted citizenship.

Why can it not now be revoked?

11 comments:

John Tee said...

See http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/britishcitizenship/eligibility/goodcharacter/

"This page provides details about the good character requirement that must be met by anyone applying for British nationality unless:

they are under 10 years old when making the application; or
are stateless and are applying on application form S1, S2 or S3; or
they are a British overseas citizen, a British subject or a British protected person and are applying on application form B(OS).

We consider you to be of good character if you show respect for the rights and freedom of the United Kingdom, have observed its laws and fulfilled your duties and obligations as a resident."

I wonder why it did not apply?

Ciaron Goggins said...

Many are now seeking asylum FROM Britain, it is no more than a 3rd world police state. With bad weather.

MTG said...

The State should try the old desperate treatment for haemorrhage. At the time of the last Black Death it was a tepid garlic poultice followed by leeches.

It cannot be less effective than the present plague of Benefit handout bureaucrats.

Noggin the Nog said...

Good Job muslims live by a strict moral code that provides society with the framework it... Oh, hang on.

Immigration should be halted immediately and permanently, at the vey least from sharia shit holes.

Farenheit211 said...

Noggin, you are correct on that one re shariah shit holes. I've been looking into the situation re making these jihadist bastards stateless even if they were born here. Unfortunately there is a UN convention that prevents the UK making this sort of scum stateless. This is a convention that isn't helping those who are daily becoming victims of bearded savagery in the UK.

MInd you the UN is now just a club for mentalist dictators, do we even need to belong anymore. The UN is starting to look very much like the League of Nations.

I'll be putting up a post on 'statelessness' on my place later this week.

James Higham said...

The court heard Hassan arrived in the UK in 1990, sought asylum in 1991, committed his first criminal offence in 1994 and was granted British citizenship in 2000.

Says it all, Julia.

Robert the Biker said...

Well, let's see....
*Beware* Howid, howid waycism alert!


He's a somali and a muslim, so has a double victimhood poker hand and a race card too as he's a nog as well.
I'm only surprised they didn't prosecute his victims for not feeling sufficiently enriched by his prescense.

Woman on a Raft said...

Just to point out that it was the John Major government in 1994 and the HRA had not yet been passed.

They could probably have deported him in 1994, but Somalia had become very unstable during a civil war and the US had sent in large numbers of troops in an effort to stabilize the place. It didn't work too well, although better than nothing, and the US left Somalia in March 1994. A UN peacekeeping force remained, but since there wasn't any peace for them to keep, I've no idea what they were doing.

Presumably it was against this background that he was allowed to stay instead of being booted right back to a war zone as a warning to others.

(I'm grinding my teeth whilst guessing at the explanation. If they'd have asked me, I'd have put him on the first plane back.)

Woman on a Raft said...

P.S. he's supposed to be 36 now - although how would we tell? - and that made him allegedly 14 when he arrived. No doubt this claim also played a part in his bid to gain nationality.

We could be paying this one's pension or equivalent as he's clearly got no intention of being a useful contributor for the next 30+ years.

John Pickworth said...

How would a second or third world country deal with a case like this?

Seriously. This chap has no intention of living a productive life in the UK and should NEVER have been given a British Passport. There are certainly grounds for having it cancelled.

I fail to understand why any asylum claim doesn't automatically disqualify the claimant from ever gaining citizenship. If a country like the UK graciously offers someone refuge is it not logical to assume that 'one day', when things at home calm down, that you would willing want to return? Wars don't last forever, dictators that might wish to harm you don't last forever and neither should the cloak of protection we offer last forever.

The Government could change the law tomorrow while still meeting it's international obligations... and overnight, the numbers coming here to suck the taxpayer dry would be dramatically slashed.

JuliaM said...

"I wonder why it did not apply?"

Me too. In wilder moments, I think of Common Purpose graduates in high places...

"Immigration should be halted immediately and permanently, at the vey least from sharia shit holes."

I'd vote for that!

"Just to point out that it was the John Major government in 1994..."

Was he, I wonder, the prequel to Call Me Dave?

"I fail to understand why any asylum claim doesn't automatically disqualify the claimant from ever gaining citizenship. If a country like the UK graciously offers someone refuge is it not logical to assume that 'one day', when things at home calm down, that you would willing want to return?"

Good point.