Friday, 7 August 2009

People Who Are 'Scared To Talk'...

....don't usually appear on the front page of the 'Guardian' talking.

Do they?

12 comments:

Blue Eyes said...

Has nobody explained what "sub judice" means?

JuliaM said...

To the relatives, or to the 'Guardian'...?

Blue Eyes said...

The relatives. They have accused a police officer of murdering their relative, do they think it would be a good idea for the details to be splashed around in the media before a court has heard all the evidence?

JuliaM said...

They probably don't understand that. But the 'Guardian' should.

So, why is it giving them the spot?

Dr Melvin T Gray said...

Why not make the noises that suit your blog and police pals best, Blue Eyes?

Police G20 antics and aftermath disgusted the civilised.

Anonymous said...

Dear Melvin, what amazes me about this mob is that suddenly they care so much for Mr T. They were happy for 14 years or so that he lived miles from them in a doss house near Smithfield. That they didn't see him because he was a pathetic alky. Suddenly they care. I hear compensayshun being mentioned. They are greedy pawns being used by the Grauniads for its own agenda as well as the rest of the loony left G20 scum. I think you'll find that most people, far from crying 'murderers' at the police are still wondering why they were so restrained. Yesterday I read the fuss because some preganat woman had a miscarriage - some questions there surely and not for the police. Then that other little loser admits assaulting a police sergeant and wonders why she got a whack - unbelievable!

Mike said...

Regardless of the honesty of his family in thier claims, because they will range from genuine grief to heartless profiteering. Regardless of individual instances where a wildly off centre politicaly opinionated person has struck a police officer clothed in roit gear.
And regardless of a dead man's life style that may or may not be the best he could have done or even measure upto the standards that most would consider middle class.

A police officer, in full roit gear, with his identification intentionaly hidden, caused injury to another person and that person is dead.

This police officer is not an odd example of police officers. His behaviour is supported by his establishment and collegues.

My advice, if, IF you survie an attack from a police officer, run. Because if you survive then you get to report what happened. If you don't run...................

woman on a raft said...

Prosecutors are now deciding whether to bring charges against the officer, who was questioned by the IPCC on suspicion of manslaughter after the Guardian released video footage of the attack.

Sub-judice Note from Pinsnet Masons.

Matters are considered to be sub judice (Latin for 'under judgment') once legal proceedings become active. Criminal proceedings are deemed active once a person is arrested, a warrant for arrest has been issued, a summons has been issued or a person has been charged and remain active until conviction."

We know that charges haven't been brought, because the report carefully says so. They are 'being considered'. The phrase "being questioned on suspicion" does not mean arrest. Tony Blair was questioned several times by police about the honours probe. He was not arrested.

I may be mistaken, but I don't think it is sub judice yet.

Anonymous said...

It was an unfortunate incident and yes, plenty of questuions, but it is being investigated and Tomlinson's remains have been subjected to THREE PM's with the result of the last still not released. Bottom line, none of us know all the circumsyances and the left have tried to make Tomlinson into a folk hero but it hasn't worked. For the police - they should go back to the old maxim and 'don't lay hands on any one unless you are going to arrest them'. There are obvious exceptions of course when first aid isbeing given and other forms of assistance. Tomlinson was a pain in the arse for quite a while that day and not one officer nicked him to get him out of the way. Let's allow the investigation to proceed without the constant squealing about Police Murder. People do die in custody and it is invariably their fault because of something they've done, haven't done, ingested etc etc. British Citizens are not routinely executed in the street by police officers. Menezes was the one big awful outrage. No one was prosecuted which is disgrace. Maybe the Tomlinson officer will be - it's more likely. Let's keep some bloody perspective. Have you seen the modern day constable recently? Murder? Death by incompetence more likely.

Gibby Haynes said...

Police G20 antics and aftermath disgusted the civilised.

Yeah, I know. But you have to give these lefty cretins time and room to piss and moan about issues they're not equipped to understand. Otherwise they'll start whinging about how rights they can't name have been infringed. And whilst that's hilarious to watch, sooner or later, it'll impact on normal people's lives, and that'll only serve to hasten our descent into Third World status.

So don't be too hard on the police for being too lenient of these unwashed simpleton scum. Letting them protest their simple-minded nonsense keeps them off the streets committing crimes, and it gives us something to point and laugh at.

JuliaM said...

"British Citizens are not routinely executed in the street by police officers."

They certainly aren't. It's different in India though...

Anonymous said...

Point taken. Things may well change in the UK when our hard left sleepers in the present government (aided and abetted by the soft left Conservative party and their allies the LibDems), fail to tackle the growth of the Caliphate, allow Sharia law and other third world values to get a grip. I'm sure Indian, Brazilian and other examples of policing under a dictatorship will come to the fore. At the moment....No!