A teenager has struck a victory for young thugs after an order to stop him wearing low-slung trousers and a hooded top was scrapped because it breached his 'human rights'.Now, as it happens, though I disagree that this should be considered a 'human right', as does Ross, I agree that no sensible person could possibly think that banning his clothing is a good crime fighting tool, as does Longrider.
The ASBO is clearly utterly deranged and no sensible person could possibly believe that it will have the right effect on young Master Drummond.
A couple of hours in the stocks after being birched, however...
That might do the trick.
Critics said today the decision amounted to the human rights of the criminal being put above the human rights of innocent people.No, actually what it amounts to is the complete failure of the justice system to deal properly with these wastes of oxygen in the first place.
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Hmm... The thing that got me about this is that it is both profoundly illiberal and deeply ineffectual. It's pre-crime really. I where hooded tops to keep my ears warm. But it's not just that an item of attire can be responsible for crime that is a cart/horse miss-match but this strange idea of conditioning. It's almost like "put him in brogues and tweeds and he'll become a nice person. ASBOs are and always were sinister.
As of course is the fact the judge had to resort to the HR laws on this rather than that now closed legal book, "The Big Book of English Common Sense".
You read Viz? Their Stasi type figures were "The bottom Inspectors". Yes, it has come to that.
I keep thinking of 'Not the Nine O'Clock News' and the 'Constable Savage' sketch - "wearing trousers in an offensive way" would fit right in!
"The ASBO is clearly utterly deranged and no sensible person could possibly believe that it will have the right effect on young Master Drummond."
First off, I dont care if this young exhibitionist has his jeans round his ankles. What harm does it do? If he wants to look like a total prat that's up to him.
The clue to the problem of course is in the word "sensible" in the quote above. The judges are idiots, they dont enforce the laws they have at their disposal (e.g. on drunken assault, see the other post today). They appear to have been shipped in from another planet where common sense is rarer than gold dust and is kept under lock and key so the judiciary never get a sniff of it.
Until they do what we thought we were paying them for, that is sentencing (harshly) people that break the important laws (like assault) and also send the CPS away with a flea in their ear when they bring pointless cases like this, then serious/violent crime will continue to worsen.
Locally elected judges would be a very good idea. If they knew they'd have to get our approval every few years they'd be a lot tougher on the real criminals and a lot more sensible with the morons like Master Drummond.
Jeans around his ankles? My first thoughts too when I read this story yesterday.
Who cares, really?
Except the lad appears to be revealing a pair of football shorts or trackie bottoms beneath his trousers. The twit can't even get the fashion right.
Anyway, ASBO's might have some limited use in certain circumstances but the powers that be insist upon tacking on a whole raft of other stupid stuff too. In this case for example banning the lad from 'aggressive begging'! I'm sorry but if he were to be caught doing this then he should be up in court for mugging, plain and simple.
To be honest, I have some sympathy for the judges. Much of their power is taken away from them, they're mostly just rubber stamping other agencies corrective actions or penalties.... like the ASBO.
But there are two issues.....
"....stop him wearing low-slung trousers and a hooded top.."
He must be prevented from wearing the hooded top that hides his identity.
If he prefers to look a complete twat with his trousers held up by his buttocks, then we should all laugh at the prat.
We could satisfy everybody by letting him keep his hoodie up but on the condition that he has his face screen printed-on his knickers, which must perforce be visible.
For extra humilliation, knickers to be pink, nylon and with darling frilly embellishments just bellow the curve of the buttocks.
I think we'd know which one is Spartacus.
The twit can't even get the fashion right.
Two possibilities - either the tracksuit is acting as a sort of chastity belt (following rumours that exposed buttocks in prison indicate availability) or it's a cynical fashion dreamt up by 'sports fashion' retailers in a bid to sell twice as many trousers.
Third possiblity: he's emulating Dick Van Dyke in the Penguin Dance from Mary Poppins. See at 2:10
Ev'ry bodi in da court seh
"Oww wit'z a jollee 'ollidee wiv Maary..."
"Hmm... The thing that got me about this is that it is both profoundly illiberal and deeply ineffectual. "
Yup, it's a real two'fer. Great British justice system...what happened to it?
"Locally elected judges would be a very good idea. "
Based on the voting choices of the public last night, I'm no longer so sure! :)
"The twit can't even get the fashion right."
Heh!
"We could satisfy everybody by letting him keep his hoodie up but on the condition that he has his face screen printed-on his knickers, which must perforce be visible. "
An elegant compromise... ;)
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