At the court hearing in September 2008 Freeman admitted abduction, 17 counts of possessing indecent images of children, gross indecency on a child under 16 and sexually touching a child without consent.
As well as being jailed, Freeman was ordered to sign the Sex Offenders’ Register for life and banned from talking to or working with children.
Well, that
worked well, didn't it?
Dean Freeman, 24, from Hamstel Road, Southend, had only recently been freed from prison after serving half of his five-year, eight-month jail term for abducting a ten-year-old boy.
Freeman, who was subject to monitoring by the probation service and police, went into Basildon town centre two weeks ago today, on Friday, April 15.
He went into a McDonald’s fast-food restaurant, which was busy at the time as local children enjoyed meals during the school Easter holiday break.
Freeman lured a seven-year-old boy into the toilets where he then forced the child to perform a sex act with him. The alarm was raised and Freeman was soon arrested and charged.
I wonder if this time they'll give him a
double lifetime ban?
32 comments:
coming soon to a bail hostel near you.... mr k clarke is going to be emptying the prisons over the next couple of years of some very nasty violent depraved people, no doubt all will be 'monitored' subject to orders etc lets just see how that works out. meanwhile keep your kids close.
Calm down dear, it's only a paedophile!
I've no doubt the authorities will have matters well in hand when Mr Freeman is released in the near future - I'm quite sure the local police will have strict instructions to deal severely with anyone attempting to protect their children from him.
Election coming up, why not vote for a party that will actually put nonces away for a long long time, or forever?
"Election coming up, why not vote for a party that will actually put nonces away for a long long time, or forever" ?
Because, to the best of my knowledge, no such party exists ..
If it did & if it also supported the return of Corporal punishment in schools & for minor offenders & Capital punishment for major offenders ..
The automatic deportation of convicted foreign offenders ..
The rescinding of British Citizenship, on conviction, for those who have chosen to live here, but yet continue to commit crimes against us ..
The immediate repeal of the Human Rights Act ..
The immediate suspension of endless Appeals ..
My "X" would be on the ballot paper & into the ballot box, faster than greased weasel shit ..
But .. its not going to happen .. is it ?
They all lack both the spine & the balls to make it so ..
Not the Nine O'Clock News had the answer years ago - "Cut his goolies off"
"Because, to the best of my knowledge, no such party exists .."
They not only exist, they have two MEPs, One called Nicholas and one called Andrew.
Bullet to back of head BUT only if he survived a myriad of medical experiments, why use beagles and bunnies when there's DNA wasting scum like this to play with!
Oh...and what the Captain said!
Poland has the right idea.
"They not only exist, they have two MEPs, One called Nicholas and one called Andrew" ...
Easy to talk the talk when not in power .. we saw enough of that from the Camermong ..
Different story when it comes to walking the walk though, eh ? ..
Brian: That doesn't kill the sexual desire, or the ability of child molesters to sexually harm children. Not by a long shot.
"Poland has the right idea" ...
Yep, I would support that too Brian ..
As I'd happily support Ranter's suggestions too ..
They deserve no mercy, no consideration, no sympathy .. after all, they didn't show their victims any ...
In most cases Police monitoring of sex offenders boils down to visiting their bedsit once a fortnight to see if they are still living there.
I would be reassured to know that more than this is going on.
Kiddy fiddlers are essentially incorrigible, or so I've been told by those in the know. Open-ended incarceration is obviously illiberal, but that has to be weighed against its prophylactic effect when a class of offence so refractory to correction is concerned.
"Open-ended incarceration is obviously illiberal .. "
With respect, I would suggest that rather depends on where one's priorities lie ..
With the offender, or with the victim ?
I know where mine lie, which is why I rigidly stand by comments previously made ..
Its entirely because of the "liberals" & their wishy-washy handling of a particularly abhorrent crime, that such a situation exists today ..
The more serious aspect is the networking between them all.
Blueknight, as I'm sure you know the police who 'monitor' these offenders won't visit that much because there's so many of the bastards, especially on a London Borough for example. The MAPA system was corrupt in any case with guidelines not being followed either because the 'crime manager' felt he/she had better things to do or sheer demand PLUS the usual 'ME ME ME' shite from police and the probation service - except the PC's and PO's that actually had to deal with the veritable tidal wave of these scumbags. What does a 'visit' achieve anyway? Without a power of entry + the fact these nonces were well clued up on what they could do and what the police and probation officers couldn't do. Monitoring of these people is a joke!
The colourful punishments advocated by some here are straight from the Daily Express readers' letters page (I imagine - and if it has one) but nasty though paedophiles are, and much though I'd probably commit violence against one myself if I caught him fiddling with any child of mine, I like living in a country that does not share Saudi Arabia's medieval judicial system.
Capital punishment always appeals on a gut level, until one thinks of the merest possibility of a miscarriage of justice, at which point it becomes abhorrent; physical mutilation, or even its chemical equivalent, is again medieval and perfectly revolting. Long prison sentences with hard labour sound OK.
"Long prison sentences with hard labour sound OK."
IF you can guarantee that this will be the case, fine. But we both know it's not going to happen under present arrangements.
Millions of animals have their "Goolies cut off" every year, without ever being accused of being paedophiles - and yet we pretend to have the moral high ground?
@ Malcolm Stevas ..
"Capital punishment always appeals on a gut level .. "
I would suggest that .. "I'd probably commit violence against one myself if I caught him fiddling with any child of mine .." is far more typical a gut reaction than any suggestion so far expressed by other commentators ..
Its not so much that commentators here are keen to endorse "Saudi Arabia's medieval judicial system .."
More, that they have considered the truly wicked nature of such crimes & the equally wicked & perverse behaviour of those in authority, who should know better and who persistently refuse to deal with such criminals in a more robust manner ..
I grew up in a generation whose parents felt it safe enough to allow their children out to play, from early morning until near dusk (with the exception of meal times) .. To go off on their bikes, for days out etc ..
Sadly, that situation no longer pertains, largely due to so-called "Care in the Community" ..
We now have, quite rightly concerned parents, making sure that their children stay close to home, if not actually indoors .. and we wonder why children have become so dependent on Television or Computer games ..
We wonder why children have become soft & molly-coddled, or obese ..
We wonder why young people joining our Armed Forces, take, on average, twice as long to get fit, as did their predecessors ..
The answers are there, for those who choose to look ..
Far, far too much attention is paid today to the "rights" or "needs" of convicted criminals .. whilst little or no attention is paid to the "rights" or "needs" of the victims of crime ..
No-one is forced into crime (just as no-one is forced to become a drug addict) .. the balance needs to be redressed and redressed as a matter of urgency ..
People who commit "proper" crime (and I don't mean the failure to pay Council Tax) need to know that by so doing, they run the risk that the Law will come down hard on them .. Until that message is clearly & unequivocally understood and rigorously implemented by the Courts, nothing will change ..
Not wishing to belittle the crimes of uber-nonce Dean Freeman but our 'betters' so routinely accuse those they wish to vilify of "possessing indecent images of children" that, given that posting proof of such would itself be conveniently indecent, I no longer believe them.
"...I'm quite sure the local police will have strict instructions to deal severely with anyone attempting to protect their children from him."
It's his 'uman right, no doubt...
"...why use beagles and bunnies when there's DNA wasting scum like this to play with!"
The lab assistants wouldn't get so attached to them, either.
"In most cases Police monitoring of sex offenders boils down to visiting their bedsit once a fortnight to see if they are still living there.
I would be reassured to know that more than this is going on."
Even that sounds like a huge drain on police resources. If someone requires 'constant monitoring', perhaps they shouldn't be out in the first place?
"The more serious aspect is the networking between them all."
And who (if anyone) is monitoring that?
"Without a power of entry + the fact these nonces were well clued up on what they could do and what the police and probation officers couldn't do."
Another aspect of their networking? One tried and tested method for getting rid of the safeguards is instantly shared amongst them all...
"The colourful punishments advocated by some here are straight from the Daily Express readers' letters page (I imagine - and if it has one)..."
It does.
And as microdave points out, long prison sentences were the payoff to the removal of the death penalty.
Now look where we are....
"Far, far too much attention is paid today to the "rights" or "needs" of convicted criminals .. whilst little or no attention is paid to the "rights" or "needs" of the victims of crime .."
Agreed!
Captain Haddock -
"To this end, BNP crime and justice policy will:
- Free the police and courts from the politically correct straitjacket which is stopping them from doing their jobs properly;
- End the liberal fixation with the “rights” of criminals and replace it with concern for the rights of victims – and the right of innocent people not to become victims;
- Re-introduce corporal punishment for petty criminals and vandals;
- Restore capital punishment for paedophiles, terrorists and murderers as an option for judges in cases where their guilt is proven beyond dispute (such as with DNA or other compelling evidence).
At the same time, the BNP recognises that decades of social welfare dependence – encouraged by disastrous Labour and Tory policies – which is the primary cause of social delinquency, must be brought to an end.
Social reform is therefore also required. Workfare, not welfare, except to the neediest, should be the norm. Only in this way can the cycle of social deprivation, which is the primary cause of indigenous criminality, be broken."
what is it here you disagree with?
As I said in an earlier post Gordo ..
"Easy to talk the talk when not in power .. we saw enough of that from the Camermong ..
Different story when it comes to walking the walk though, eh" ? ..
The BNP have about as much chance of forming a UK government as I have .. the difference between us is that I know it & they don't ..
Do you suggest people vote Lab-Lib-Con then, or spoil their ballot paper?
Its no more for me to suggest how other people should vote, than it it is for them to suggest how I do so, Gordo ..
Suffice to say, I know how I vote & why ..
Microdave:
Re the cutting off of goolies, you might view yourself as being equivalent to a Siamese or a Dachshund, but I tend to think people should be treated differently from animals.
Capt. Haddock:
I don't know where you get the idea that I think those who commit "real crimes" should be treated leniently: I share your contempt for the Guardian-reader view that we are all guilty, and I think the State should stop trying to punish us all in advance of our committing some notional crime (e.g. by taking away our right to own handguns, in case their possession turns us into psychopaths). But since you mention children so much, do you really want children to grow up in a society that punishes criminals with physical mutilation? How might you explain that to them, along with messages about decency, civilisation, how we're better than e.g. Saudi Arabia, etc...
"But since you mention children so much, do you really want children to grow up in a society that punishes criminals with physical mutilation"
Malcolm, my two children grew up with the knowledge that certain types of misbehaviour would result in immediate corporal punishment & when or where required, that punishment was applied ..
I'm both delighted & proud to say that neither, ever brought so much as a hint of trouble to our door .. and both have grown up to be thoroughly decent, hard-working adults
Your comparison with physical mutilation is merely a matter of degree ..
That mutilation, Execution or Punishment may never in fact need to be used .. the mere threat that it exists & is available should be sufficient to deter all but the most hardened & determined of wrong-doers .. and for them, there would seem no hope ..
Capt. Haddock:
Your comparison with physical mutilation is merely a matter of degree ..
Sorry but this is extraordinary! I've never heard anyone suggest previously that there was a perfectly reasonable continuum of acceptability between, say, a slapped wrist at one extreme, and castration or flaying at the other.
..the mere threat that [physical mutilation etc} exists & is available should be sufficient to deter all but the most hardened & determined of wrong-doers..
History tends to disprove this resoundingly. Did the most appallingly cruel judicial punishment in the Middle Ages deter crime and keep our streets safe? of course not! It was a famously violent era. Does it work elsewhere currently? Not so's you'd notice. If we readopted the repellently cruel punishments of yesteryear we would both fail to prevent crime, and brutalise our society at the same time.
Fair enough Malcolm .. You're as entitled to your view as I am ..
I think by now you've probably gathered that I'm a confirmed member of the popularly- named "Hang 'em and Flog 'em Brigade" ..
I do however know, from experience (being retired Military myself) that the threat of & judicious use of draconian punishment has ensured that our Armed Forces (as an example) are, by & large, Law abiding people .. with a respect for others & perhaps, more importantly, for themselves ..
The same, however, cannot be said for a large proportion of the general population, for whom it appears, that anyone without a Criminal Record or ASBO is a "non-person" ..
Given that you seem to find the notion of, let alone the application of physical punishment abhorrent (though, oddly, you admit to considering the use of violence if one of your own should be "interferred" with) ..
What would you suggest that society does with those who have no regard for the Law, or for the consequences of their criminal activities ? ..
I do assure you that I'm not trying to be either provocative or argumentative .. I find alternative views to be of interest ..
And, if they have a conceivable chance of working effectively, might even be prepared to moderate my own, sincerely held beliefs ..
"But I tend to think people should be treated differently from animals."
Why??? We (the human race, that is) regard ourselves as so bloody superior, yet we have done more damage to the planet than any of its other "dumb" inhabitants. Do you consider the disgusting treatment the circus elephant Anne has suffered in her enforced captivity is unimportant? I doubt there would be any shortage of volunteers to mete out the same beatings and stabbings to the bastard responsible if he is ever found....
You equate the castration of paedophiles (which would be carried out in a hospital) with the crude amputation of limbs carried out in Saudi Arabia. Being denied the ability to pass your dubious gene pool on to future generations is rather less onerous than trying to live a normal life with a hand and foot missing....
Capt. H:
I think we're on a hiding (!) to nothing with this one, but I'll just point out that "physical punishment" is a very general term, and the point at issue is not merely mild chastisement - or the sort of personal duffing-up I'd meet out to weirdos I caught interfering with my children - but the judicial application of extreme punishment such as mutilation. I think the latter is medieval, disgusting and unacceptable.
Microdave:
If you think animals should actually be equated with humans then I fear you're over the edge, on a par with animal-lib fruitcakes and not amenable to reasoned argument. Discussion is pointless. "Harming the planet" - ? How can the planet not be "harmed" when it's inhabited by several billion people who want e.g. enough food, plus iPods, vacuum cleaners, roofs over their heads...? Again, if you think the planet ("Gaia" perhaps...) deserves, for whatever mysterious reason, to be left in a pristine state at the expense of its occupants, you're, er, on a different planet.
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