Friday 19 April 2013

Well, I Suppose You Could Call It 'Justice' If You Wanted To...

Investigating officer DC Paul Miller, said after sentencing: “This was a vicious assault that left the victim needing hospital treatment.”
“BTP takes violent crime very seriously and anyone caught carrying a weapon on the railway network will be arrested and prosecuted.
“Incidents such as this are thankfully very rare on the London Underground network and the chances of becoming a victim are very slim, but when they do happen, BTP takes them very seriously and will do everything in our power to bring offenders to justice.”
Quite right! You can’t get away with viciously beating a stranger on a late night Tube tra…

Oh:
Harmel, 19, of Rookery Crescent, Dagenham, was identified on CCTV and his image circulated on police intelligence systems, which led to his arrest.
He received a nine month sentence suspended for 18 months and was given a 28 day supervision requirement at Snaresbrook Crown Court on March 22.
Well. I guess you can

8 comments:

Anonymous said...

Bring back the stocks! Holding thugs up to ridicule probably the most effective deterrent plus it would be cheap on the public purse as we could let them go homebfor the night shift(after the tube has stopped running of course).
Ljh

Anonymous said...

Ed Miliband. Do right by people. I have faith in you. When the time comes, your time will change. If you win, you will hold the key. If you lose, you will be gone for good. I'd like to think you will win.

To my other friend. Times are very bad for me. This isn't your world but one you can change. Help people. Don't leave them to suffer. And I forgot to say something I should have said a long time ago. I love you.x

Feral.

Furor Teutonicus said...

WTF was THAT shite from "Feral" (MTG)?

"To my other friend", (SINGULAR please note), sais a lot!

Not called "Chocky", by any chance?

ageing man said...

The solution is easy.....shoot off a toe. It will work.

This is how the system works. the micreant is found guilty, you shoot off a toe. If will effin hurt alot. but it will heal and he will get on with his life. then the next time he decides to step the wrong side of the law, he'll think erm....bugger it hurt last time. Now of course he may have forgotten so yes he steps the wrong side of the line, and guess what....you shoot off another toe....and yes it will hurt once more..... I bet by toe number 3 he will see the error of his ways.

It will save the state money, it will rehabilitate criminals, it will allow them to then get a job and change their life, without the stigma of a criminal record, [unless they are going to be a foot model of course] and trainee doctors can learn to repair damaged feet as part of their training.

Shooting off a toe....extreme ? yep
Will it work...... ? yep
Is it at least an attempt to deal with the crap justice system we have so far......? yep

Anonymous said...

What interests me is you never have any shortage of material AP. I wonder what wed find if you had carte blanche to investigate first hand? I've just had a very interesting conversation with a housing officer and some cops in respect of "Jake" - a local 15 year old thug who has been blackmailing my grandson.
Jake is getting special school, did 7 weeks of a 6 month custodial and basically nothing can be done for or about him. The Youth Offending Team were described as part of the problem - wishy-washy bleeding heart liberal stuff - the description from a social worker who says Jake is a revolting turd and responsible for over 100 crimes (most, one suspects, not recorded).
The problems are all to do with lack of follow-through that make deterrence impossible. I think the situation is probably 10 times worse than your blog demonstrates.

Anonymous said...

It may help if the magistrates or judges lived in the real world, saw what these people are doing to their neigbourhood and give them some real, deterrant sentences (minumum of 4 years for violent crime before any form of parole). Perhaps some of them would really like to do this, but they have to abide by 'guidelines' sent down from on high by those who live even further away from reality. There are some states in the USA (I think Texas is one) where a jury can not only proclaim innocence or guilt but suggest a suitable term of imprisonment (25 years to life for murder, compared to 6 months supervision and £20 out of the poor box in this country). Lampposts and piano wire spring to mind!
Penseivat

Furor Teutonicus said...

XX Anonymous said...

It may help if the magistrates or judges lived in the real world, saw what these people are doing to their neigbourhood and give them some real, deterrant sentences (minumum of 4 years for violent crime before any form of parole). Perhaps some of them would really like to do this, but they have to abide by 'guidelines' sent down from on high by those who live even further away from reality. There are some states in the USA (I think Texas is one) where a jury can not only proclaim innocence or guilt but suggest a suitable term of imprisonment (25 years to life for murder,
20 April 2013 17:10 XX

Do not normaly answer "Anonymous" but you are correct!

Here, it is 15 years MAXIMUM for murder!!!

THEN we get "Good behaviour", etc!

"Shot whilst trying to escape" is ALWAYS the best answer. No court case, no bail, just a couple of Andrex to clear up the mess.

John Pickworth said...

"It may help if the magistrates or judges lived in the real world..."

I believe most of them actually do and privately many of them are probably sympathetic too. The problem is they're not the ones ruling their courts these days.

Just been watching some old re-runs of Judge Judy on TV - yeah, I know, reality TV and all that - but you have to wonder why our judges aren't allowed to verbally rip off the arms of the miscreants appearing in our courts? As always though, the courts are the last link in a chain which started long ago with the parents and the schools. And nowhere along that chain is anyone telling these twits "no" or that their behaviour is unacceptable.