Thursday 18 November 2010

Justice System: Even If Handed To Us On A Plate, We Still Screw Up….

A mum has blasted police for not getting her son’s scooter back from a known offender who stole it five days ago.
Oh, come on love! You can’t expect results that quic…

Wait, what? Known offender?
Max Whitaker, 17, was devastated when his silver scooter was taken from outside his home in Friars Street, Shoebury.

When his friends saw it being ridden through Friars Park by the known culprit they thought the case was cut and dry and Max would soon have his bike back.
And why not think that?
Exasperated mum, Victoria Pallen, 39, said: “We’ve practically solved the crime for them. We know who it is. What concerns me is that my boys will steal it back and get themselves into trouble or get hurt. I don’t want my sons taking the law into their own hands.”
Maybe the police do? Maybe that’d be easier for them to prove?

Hey, it’s all just numbers on a sheet to them, isn’t it?
An Essex Police spokeswoman said they had not yet interviewed the suspect.

She said: “Officers have worked with the family to search a number of locations. Officers continue to investigate.”
Just not very well. Or quickly.

Well, what are they going to do? Hire a private detective?

Mind you….
Two dopey crooks led police to their door after giving pawnbrokers their real names and addresses while selling stolen loot.
/facepalm
Guiver, of St Chad’s Road, Tilbury, pleaded guilty to four counts of theft while Kennedy, of Gainsborough Avenue, Tilbury, admitted three thefts when they appeared at Basildon Magistrates’ Court.

They were given 12-week jail terms, suspended for a year, and ordered to pay £120 compensation to one of their victims.
Oh, crap!

Was it worth catching them, even despite the tiny effort expended therein?
Following the sentencing, investigating officer Det Con Mike Ganly, of BTP, said: “Guiver and Kennedy stole bikes from stations in south-east Essex and thought they were being clever by selling the bikes in a different area.

“Not only were they known to BTP for previous offences, but handing over their personal details to receive money from pawnbrokers was not a smart move, and ultimately resulted in them being caught out.

“Both these men are persistent offenders who have caused misery to many people across south-east Essex.”
I wonder why they are persistent offenders?
Ian Palmer, security manager for c2c, said: “We will continue to work closely with British Transport Police to prevent such instances of crime around the railway and to identify and seek prosecutions for those responsible.”
I’ve only one question. Why bother?

8 comments:

Clarissa said...

As someone who has lost a couple of easily detachable bits of her bikes at c2c stations over the years I'm rather annoyed at the leniency shown but not surprised.

Mind you c2c don't help cyclists overly much as only one station on the line (Benfleet) has anything that comes close to secure storage with facilities at the rest ranging from 'bikes?' to bog standard stands and station fences.

Jeff Wood said...

First, if your first offence is not too serious, you get a warning, or probation.

Second, that warning or probation comes with a suspended sentence, which never expires.

Third, if you offend again, no more warnings: you serve that suspended sentence, in full, before starting the new one.

Finally, sentences cannot be served concurrently, but must be served consecutively. Only the last term in jug is eligible for remission. If a prolific offender spends the rest of his life in jail as a result, jail is where he belongs.

Big Dave said...

Friend loses iphone. May have been stolen but she is unsure.
Chummy finds iphone or may have stolen it.
Friend phones O2 to tell them to cancel the contract.
O2 say the phone is in use in the next town along the road as it 'has a GPS chip in it' so they always know where they are. Even better they know who has it because they bought a PAYG O2 sim card with their own credit card so O2 have all their details inc address. O2 say contact police and get crime number.
Friend tells police.
Police ring O2 to ask for chummy's details.
O2 refuse to hand them over as it would be a breach of data protection. Police have to fill in endless forms which take six friggin weeks for O2 to process.
Police phone friend and tell her they can't do anything for six weeks.
Friend phones O2 to ask why they won't hand over details.
O2 state it's 'company policy'
Friend points out that is a different tale than the one they told the police.
O2 said nothing they can do except send a text to the iphone informing chummy they are using the phone illegally and it will be blocked.

End result.
Iphone bricked by O2 and thrown away by chummy.
Police still filling in form after form.
Friend down the cost of one iphone.
Chummy never brought to justice!

What a pathetic shithole of country the UK has become and what a bunch of fuckwits at O2.

MTG said...

There is no better catalyst to hasten one's fury than voluntarily involving police in theft or other personal misfortunes.

Jiks said...

Reminds me of most recent bike theft where Sainsburys had the thief on camara, full face, good quality image. No doubt he was well "known to the police" as was wielding bolt cutters like a pro by all accounts.

I had an exact time and a reliable witness. Video evidence. Could I get the ****ers even to look at the tape? Of course not, took 'em about ten minutes to understand the location, evidently they don't have anything as advanced as Google Maps.

As the victims mum says, if the family do anything themselves, plod will be all over them like a rash...

Anonymous said...

The lack of policing is well put on Gadget and similar. What is frustrating is the general lack of Plod ability to see themselves as a major part of the problem. This itself is the wider problem of useless politics and bureaucracy, which Plod are content to hide in.
The answer would start in genuinely independent public scrutiny, and laughably we provide pretence of this through HMIC and IPCC!

Anonymous said...

"Guiver...while Kennedy"

Not scummy Pikies by any chance I suppose...

JuliaM said...

"Mind you c2c don't help cyclists overly much as only one station on the line (Benfleet) has anything that comes close to secure storage..."

I remember reading in one of their little passenger pamphlets that they planned to upgrade all stations with better bike storage.

But now they've lost the franchise, I expect that's gone by the board...

"If a prolific offender spends the rest of his life in jail as a result, jail is where he belongs."

Quite. Some people are not capable of being redeemed. Why should society suffer as a result?

"End result.
Iphone bricked by O2 and thrown away by chummy.
Police still filling in form after form.
Friend down the cost of one iphone.
Chummy never brought to justice!"


Most people now only report theft to get a crime number for the insurance, not out of any hope of the police tackling it....

"...took 'em about ten minutes to understand the location, evidently they don't have anything as advanced as Google Maps."

You'd think they could use all those new Blackberries that police forces were spending money like a drunken sailor on...

"What is frustrating is the general lack of Plod ability to see themselves as a major part of the problem. "

Indeed. More time is wasted on complaining about the other end of the justice system's faults...

While over at blogs like Bystanders, they seem to see themselves in opposition to the police, not as upholders of justice!