Friday, 19 November 2010

Well, This Is Going To Get Awkward...

...the next time the police rock up to a messy domestic and the wife is standing there, bleeding from a cut head and with a huge shiner, and the husband blusters that she did it herself by 'walking into a heavy door'...

The police are jubilant, unaware (or uncaring?) of the public mood.

As Fuel Injected Moose points out:
"They hold us in the same contempt I have for them. If we don't like it we should move to a country where the coppers are a bit worse."
The options seem to be diminishing daily.

18 comments:

Lynne said...

Pamela Somerville had injuries to her left eye and temple. On viewing the footage of her being thrown into the cell by Andrews you can see the open door to the cell (it opens outwards) and you can see Andrews clearly on the LEFT HAND side of Ms Somerville. How the fuck did she smack into the door frame with a honking big copper in the way?

And how come there seems to be no mention of the fact that while in the custody area, Andrews is clearly seen striking Ms Andrews on the left hand side of her head/face?

Justice ain't merely blind it has it's head wedged firmly up its arse. Or Judge "Roy" Bean has...

Bastards!

I'll be doing a review of this at Counting Cats later today.

Lynne said...

That's Andrews striking Ms Somerville - duh...

Bucko said...

Good analogy about the domestic violence.
I don't think their rules apply the same way to us though.
To them, CCTV doesn't tell the whole story. To us it's dammning evidence.

Anonymous said...

Surely this will bring both The Devil, and Eugenides back on-line, venting enough steam to run Sizewell B....?

one rule for them....

sect 47 said...

The childish mantra about one rule for them etc... Ignores the fact that an independent Judiciary found him not guilty.

But wait. Them judges is in on it as well aren’t they? Got to be, stands to reason, how else do we explain the big conspiracy behind it all?

Only a cretin watches a video and believes it to be the truth.

The world watches aeroplanes crash into a skyscraper and believe the Govt did it.

Get a grip and get over yourself.

This member of the public quite rightly pursued his inalienable right to appeal and was vindicated.

I comment very little on Judges pronouncements, its a fools game when you haven’t heard first hand all the evidence.

Tin hats and foaming spittle all round

Woman on a Raft said...

A campaign may be rumbling:

Send your one-lensed and sat on spectacles to:

For the personal attention of
Mr Justice Bean
Oxford Crown Court
St Aldates,
Oxford,
Oxfordshire,
OX1 1TL

Lynne said...

Only a cretin believes that our judicial system is without fault and should never, ever be questioned. After all, there has never been one single miscarriage of justice in the history of jurisprudence nor has there ever been an Appeal Court decision that wasn't the right one. So be a good little sheep and try not to notice the glaring evidence that the woman was injured when she was thrown roughly into the cell, not before. The fact the video has been edited for highlights doesn't alter anything but says a lot of you take the time to examine the details.

Lynne said...

Oh and the 9/11 strawman - I call bullshit on that one.

Bucko said...

""Ignores the fact that an independent Judiciary found him not guilty""

One of those also found him guilty. Go figure.

noonelistenstomeatthepub said...

Lyn lyn lyn, examine your own arguement.

The same can be said of the first trial, which is correct ? first or the second trial, first , got to be the first ,youv'e seen the video ,aintcha ?

You will be trying to convince us all next that 6 million jews were gassed to death by the NSADP becasue you watched Schindler's List.

Lynne said...

Not taking the bait! ;-)

Jiks said...

I was fully expecting this result.

Not because it was right but because it was inevitable in the current climate. Anyone in a uniform is there to enforce the law, or their version of it, not obey it.

I know they don't care what nobodies like me think but they should. I'm so law-abiding I don't even download films for free, nevermind anything more serious like *gasp* riding my bike on the pavement.

When the police have lost my trust and respect it's pretty likely everyone elses has been lost too. That will come back to bite them in the end.

MTG said...

"The police are jubilant, unaware (or uncaring?) of the public mood."

The fest on Gadget was to include a lavish dance - duly cancelled following the accident when, in a fit of effusive exuberance, the Inspector shot both feet with larger calibre bullets.

MTG said...

Gadget is 'fixing' evidence on his Andrews thread and now the complaints pour in, viz:


"Gadget has also edited my recent postings, Andy, to reverse entirely or otherwise distort my views.

I think Gadget has lost the plot. Which is a shame, because if you read some of his earlier postings they give a really good insight into the difficult work the police perform. I would recommend “A Dead Mum” on page 16 of his book – not just a moving story but also an impressive statement of intent:

“THE main reason I wrote this book is because I am worried about the gulf that has opened up between us and our core supporters – law-abiding, tax-paying folks living ordinary lives – and I’d like to try to bring us closer together again. This is important, because we police with consent and without the support of the majority we are lost.”

Laudable, but a long way from where we are presently – with Gadget routinely disparaging members of the public and fitting-up contributors by editing their postings. He is apparently of at least Inspector rank – shouldn’t he be setting some sort of example rather than playing to the disgruntled officer gallery? Does he care what damage this is doing to our perception of the police?

Gadget, take a holiday, come back and give us more of the thoughtful informative persusive stuff. Please."

Dishonest police fixing evidence?...nah.

man to man marking said...

melvin ,stop boring the whole of the fucking internet , back , back in to that chair now , put that tartan rug around those spindly white legs.

Er... Melv, not that web site, put it away man.

nurse , nurse

Anonymous said...

Good Morning, Ranter. Your disguise above has the cunning of the robber with a dish towel wrapped around his forehead.

JuliaM said...

"Surely this will bring both The Devil, and Eugenides back on-line, venting enough steam to run Sizewell B....?"

Let's hope so...

"The childish mantra about one rule for them etc... Ignores the fact that an independent Judiciary found him not guilty."

And as Bucko points out, also found him GUILTY. Want to go for 'best of three'?

"The world watches aeroplanes crash into a skyscraper and believe the Govt did it. "

'The world' doesn't - a handful of conspiraloons and idiots do.

"I was fully expecting this result.

Not because it was right but because it was inevitable in the current climate."


Indeed. And it's a worrying sign...

"When the police have lost my trust and respect it's pretty likely everyone elses has been lost too."

And too many seem not to care about that.

"I think Gadget has lost the plot. Which is a shame, because if you read some of his earlier postings they give a really good insight into the difficult work the police perform."

Indeed.

OK, it's his blog, his rules.

But it's pretty bad blog etiquette to start removing not just trolls and spam but posts that are critical of your opinion.

If you can't defend your opinion, or simply agree to disagree with regular commenters who hold different opinions, then what's it worth in the first place?

Anonymous said...

why is it that we view and treat suspected violent attacks on property or the person where the alleged victim and accused are known to each other any different from those cases where they are not known to each other. In other crimes while these relationships often lead investigators to evidence that supports or contradicts the allegation we see no difference in the murder of a woman or man by another simply because they were known to each other or not. It has no bearing on the definition of the crime or appropriate sentencing so why in domestic violence?
This separation in treatment while investigating and prosecution is also apparent when considering male on male, male on female, female on male and female on female crimes where violence is involved, again why? If I come around after a blow to my head it is initially of little concern whether a man or a woman delivered the blow or if the person who did it knew me, and I do have personal experience coming round having tried to prevent an ex wife driving our car while under the influence, sitting on the drive perhaps made me an obvious target and yes while I was concerned for the car that I had paid for her well being and that of the public did cross my mind before it met the outside of the car with some force.