Thursday 12 January 2012

The ‘Good Samaritan’ Attacker!

A schoolboy who assaulted another pupil in a classroom will not be charged with a criminal offence.
Another CPS cock-u…

Oh. Hang on:
After an investigation, and because of the age of both pupils, Notts Police said they would be putting the attacker, who is also 14, through a restorative justice course – aimed at making him realise the consequences of such actions – rather than charging him with a criminal offence and pursuing it through the courts.
Oh, good grief! We aren’t talking about a minor scrap here, he put the boy in hospital!
Sergeant Deb Barton, force lead in restorative justice, explained: "I am working closely with both the victim and his family and the other boy and his parents to establish a conclusion that works for everyone.
"The incident shouldn't have happened; however, it led to the victim receiving medical treatment that saved his life…"
Wait. What?
After being given first aid by the school's caretaker the victim was taken to King's Mill Hospital but later transferred to the Glenfield Hospital in Leicestershire, where doctors subsequently diagnosed him with a potentially life-threatening illness.
Oh, well, why not give the little sod a first aid certificate as well?

But wait, Officer Deb isn’t finished with her boilerplate press release:
"But instead of progressing down the criminal justice route, the victim's family simply wanted to ensure the other boy was aware of what his actions led to, and the possible consequences that any sort of violence can have.

"Restorative justice is also an important tool for us to quickly reintegrate the victim back into school.
Because hey, why should only this kid be the beneficiary of some ‘House’-style investigatory medical procedures?

Perhaps he can ask the others to meet him at the back of the bike sheds for a ‘consultation’…
"We don't want to see young people criminalised for acting rashly or making a bad decision in the heat of the moment."
Like thumping another kid in the classroom..?

Oh, and if anyone wonders where this bizarre concept of 'restorative justice' came from in the first place, well, wonder no more. It came from the EU.

Can we leave yet?

11 comments:

Captain Haddock said...

In my book "restorative justice" means allowing the victim to do the same to the guilty party ..

They'll soon learn that actions have consequences ..

Jackart said...

So you would really, honestly, rather clog the courts & prison system up with boys being boys? Ruin a kid's life for life?

Restorative justice is what Dixon of Dock Green did, it was just called "good honest policing" back then before the bureaucrats got involved.

And blaming the EU? Pur-lease.

Tattyfalarr said...

I clicked the EU link and my eyes alighton on "CEP is the European Organisation for Probation. It aims to promote the social inclusion of offenders...."

Once offenders have socially excluded themselves it should stay that way until society says otherwise...NOT the frickin' EU.

Jackart it might have escaped your attention that "boys being boys" involves them breaking the law and so the court system is precisely the place to deal with that.

Otherwise...vigilante is the way to go. You can't have it both ways.

So-called "Restorative Justice" doesn't even come close to an acceptable compromise.

Jackart said...

Tattyfalarr, the vast, vast, vast majority of "crimes" go unrecorded and unpunished. The vast, vast, vast majority of statutes go unused.

It would be better if, in cases where two people scrap, they are encouraged to sort it out themselves without the law, a heavy and blunt instrument at the best of times, being brought to bear.

Anonymous said...

I think the school should have been able to deal with it and this would also ensure that the 'offender' is therefore 'diverted' from the criminal justice system and all that entails. That said, I would only support such action if the 'offender' was publicly caned in front of the whole school by the sadistic PE/Games teacher!

Tattyfalarr said...

Jackart - "the vast, vast, vast majority of "crimes" go unrecorded and unpunished. The vast, vast, vast majority of statutes go unused.

SO let's use them. It's certainly no excuse for allowing pseudo-justice in through the back door though.

In the absence of effective law then yes, like you, I am in favour of what you call "allowing people to sort it out themselves" and society calls "vigilante justice".

I suspect that's not quite what you meant though and expect some sort of authority-led intervention, instead. let me guess...the school should have sorted it out ??

Jackart said...

Tattyfalarr: You're so desperate for authority, I pity you. Yes. Any half competent teacher should, with the parents be able to sort it out without recourse to law.

Speeding. You think THAT should be prosecuted in every case? How about Assult (bearing in mind shouting at someone is "assualt")?

"it's the law" is the argument of the moron and the facist through the ages. Unbelievable horrors have been committed in it's name. The law only works if there's consent, and when it gets ridiculous or oppressive or nit-picking then that consent is removed.

Lucky Lawless said...

Okay, Europe, here's the deal. "Social inclusion of offenders" is redundant thinking because the offenders have voluntarily put themselves outside society.

Crims choose to break the laws that most other people abide by, and it is nonsense that can they then be 'included' in society again just because some overpaid EU minions get off on it.

If they have done the time and don't offend again. they are back in. Otherwise, they remain outsiders (though many would be happy to see them remain outside the UK).

Tattyfalarr said...

Jackart...oh dear you resorted to the tactic of trying to insult me just like a common troll. Irrelevant nonsense and dismissed and such. We almost had a sensible debate up to that point but never mind eh.

Now then...as for "the law"...we either have it or we don't.

Personally...I'm perfectly happy to bypass authority entirely to arrange for anyone that threatens me and mine to be "dealth with". The last person on the face of this earth I would expect to have to deal with feral children committing criminal acts is a teacher.

The parents ? Don't make me laugh. How naive are you, really ? Maybe once...long ago when parents actually did a bit of parenting...but not now. No chance.

Now it's ME or police and not necessarily in that order. Hope that clarifies things for you...

James Higham said...

Oh, and if anyone wonders where this bizarre concept of 'restorative justice' came from in the first place, well, wonder no more. It came from the EU.

And from Waugh's Decline and Fall.

JuliaM said...

"So you would really, honestly, rather clog the courts & prison system up with boys being boys? Ruin a kid's life for life? "

If we were talking about scrumping apples, maybe not.

But my definition of 'boys will be boys' doesn't include assault in a classroom (presumably under the nose of a teacher) occasioning a hospital visit. Your mileage, of course, may vary.

"Once offenders have socially excluded themselves it should stay that way until society says otherwise...NOT the frickin' EU."

Spot on!

"Jackart...oh dear you resorted to the tactic of trying to insult me just like a common troll. "

Be thankful this isn't a thread on cycling... ;)

"And from Waugh's Decline and Fall."

Good point!