Friday 1 March 2024

"I know what you're thinking, punk. You're thinking "Did he fire six shots or only five?"...'

"Now to tell you the truth, I've forgotten myself..."
Norfolk police are facing questions after it emerged the force allowed an officer to drive fast response vehicles and carry a firearm despite him having been diagnosed with amnesia for a decade.

I really should be shocked but...well. 

PC Karl Warren first suffered from memory loss while working for Norfolk Constabulary in 2012. He told senior officers of his condition at the time but was allowed to remain in his role and later became an officer with the roads and armed policing team.

This came to light when he drove into the back of a civilian's car at 50mph. And didn't stop. 

The Audi motorist pulled over at the earliest opportunity, but the police car carried on without stopping.

He wasn't single crewed. So was his fellow cop also an amnesic? Are all cops now amnesiacs? 

The misconduct panel, which heard evidence over two days, dismissed the charge of misconduct, saying they had no reason to contradict a medical diagnosis that he was suffering from a form of epilepsy that left him “completely unaware of his surroundings”.

And his fellow cop, unbelievably, only got a written warning! 

Following a separate hearing in October, PC Hargrave was given a written warning for not challenging PC Warren at the time and not reporting the incident immediately.

And now it's all out in the open, someone finally came to their senses. 

Mr Banham said despite being cleared of misconduct PC Warren had effectively lost his career and was still suffering seizures requirement strong medication. “The officer has been through hell. He's been through diagnosis. He's no longer carrying [firearms] and he's no longer driving.,” he said.
"His life has been hugely affected.”

If he's not guilty of misconduct, whoever hired him certainly is. 

H/T: Dave Ward via email

5 comments:

Penseivat said...

Irrespective of the misconduct hearing, Warren knew he had bouts of amnesia. As a Police officer, he should have realised he was a danger to the public and not only sought excuse from driving Police vehicles, but surrendered his driving licence to drive any motor vehicles at all. As for the firearms certificate, words fail me.
Who else knew about his medical condition? Any such supervisors or colleagues, or even the Force Medical Officer, had a duty to protect the public by dealing with this, and they should also be disciplined.
As for Hargreaves, his blatant failure to carry out his duties should have resulted in being dismissed from the Force, with any excuse of colleague loyalty being disregarded.
I was a County Police officer for many years and can not recall any incident as bizarre as this.

Mudplugger said...

Bearing in mind the county involved, one is reminded of the local doctors' standard abbreviation on medical records for native conditions - 'NFN' - Normal For Norfolk.

Anonymous said...

Be honest, in what real world situation, not would but, 'could' this occur?

The only way is because of some "special privilege" or "protection" given to him (so that everyone involved at every stage, and contacting him in any way, was 'obliged' not to react or report him - think about the amount and level of "support" for him to be treated like this).

So, first start asking 'what' he is, then 'who he's related to' and I suspect you'll find it even 'more' unsettling/unacceptable a situation than at first glance.


[Then realise that 'all' constabulary's across the country are run by the same type of people, acting in the same way].

MTG1 said...

"As a Police officer, he should have realised he was a danger to the public and not only sought excuse from driving Police vehicles, but surrendered his driving licence to drive any motor vehicles at all. As for the firearms certificate, words fail me..."

Don't fail yourself, Penise.

As a typical plod with shit for brains, he simply cared nothing for the fact he was a danger to the public.

JuliaM said...

"I was a County Police officer for many years and can not recall any incident as bizarre as this."

I've been blogging for 17 years, and I concur!

"Bearing in mind the county involved..."

Yes, I guess if it had to happen anywhere...! 😊

"The only way is because of some "special privilege" or "protection" given to him..."

I'm getting faint Max Coopey vibes, to be sure.