The home secretary, Priti Patel, this month announced plans to crack down on unauthorised Traveller camps, including by making trespass a criminal offence.
But police responses to a consultation launched last year about dealing with such encampments show forces are opposed to such a move.See...?
It's perfectly clear now who they work for. It's not me, or you. It's not objective scientific rationality either, so this shouldn't really come as a surprise.
... 75% of police responses indicated that their current powers were sufficient and/or proportionate. Additionally, 84% did not support the criminalisation of unauthorised encampments and 65% said lack of site provision was the real problem.I wonder if 65% of police think that lack of provision of free stuff is 'the real problem' behind shoplifting, mugging and burglary?
Abbie Kirkby, advice and policy manager at FFT, said the proposed laws would make the lives of Gypsies and Travellers a misery.Good! It's more than time they got a little back of what they dish out to others on a regular basis.
A Home Office spokeswoman said: “As part of the consultation further views from police forces will be taken into consideration along with the views of local authorities, travellers and communities. It is not for us to pre-empt the outcome of these discussions.”I sincerely hope that's civil service-ese for 'We're going to ignore the whiners' but, frankly, I doubt they are on our side either!
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An illegal encampment by 'you-know-who', is always a devastating experience for law-abiding locals. Crime mysteriously erupts and nearby residents live in fear; placed under a siege for as long as 'travellers' continue gate-crashing and exploiting, lawful communities. Relief from these nightmares had long been promised to the electorate.
Democracy, sorry...government, has once again been overruled by Mr Plod who remains reluctant to get involved in 'risky' ventures which necessitate coming into close proximity with the menace.
But UK police are not always reluctant to enforce laws and have welcomed major funding for roadside speed trap hideouts. Tax payers can now look forward to police resources being fully concentrated on 'zero tolerance' policies for motorists.
You see, JuliaM...it turns out that plod aren't so stupid after all!
I don't suppose the Police's lack of enthusiasm for making gypsy encampment trespass a criminal offense has anything to do with it forcing them to act rather than shrug shoulders and say "land owner's problem"?
If any member of FFT, or any of the pro-traveller SJWs, found a group encamped in their garden, sh*tting in the bushes, or fly tipping household waste by the front door, they would want the Police to do something about it. However, as the land these scum take over, and destroy, is not their personal property, they couldn't give two monkeys about the taxpayer or those whose lives have been blighted by these parasites.
Any site for travellers to use has to be paid for from local council taxes, so make payment of residence, however temporary, a condition of access. If they move onto land without prior permission or payment, block them in and stop them from leaving until they both pay and clean up the site. And support Priti Patel in making trespass a criminal offence, as it is where they come from.
Penseivat
Just for a change....let's look at some good news for police.
Sussex Police made a public announcement that 'there' chief had received an award for leading the fight against gender equality. And Superintendent Mockwell (?) received a special mention for the crusade against the law-abiding.
There are two little 'communities' in my area. One is of 'circus folk' who keep to themselves and cause no trouble (my church loves them as when we do their funerals the collection plate overflows); the other is itinerant Irish who are utterly vile and anti-social, and treat the local Sainsbury's as a free buffet. They seem to behave with complete impunity. Some of their hags and slags were on one of those police shows once: apprehended at Lakeside for shoplifting, they responded with their usual outraged aggression such that the police couldn't get shot of them fast enough lest the menfolk turned up. Plod basically allows them to behave as they like. This has to stop. If they want to do miscreant pandering they should do the honourable thing and resign and train as social workers.
That Twitter link made disturbing reading. What the hell is this 'College of Policing' that so many forces are in thrall to? It seems to be another one of those malign entities such as Common Purpose that need to be destroyed.
Here's a curiosity:
When the press feature photos of various vans, campers and caravans on a public space the vehicles' registrations are always hidden. This week there was an item in the Flail showing a Range Rover (rightly) dithering at a fast flowing ford. The registration was clearly visible.
Could someone enlighten us why there are double standards? Is it to protect the guilty?
It'll be no use the Tories (or anyone else) passing new laws about illegal encampments, the police refuse to enforce the existing laws of the land on pikeys anyway. The police already have power to move on groups of trespassers with more than 6 vehicles, but refuse to use them. They also refuse to enforce all manner of normal laws on pikeys - criminal damage, theft, handling stolen goods etc etc. Look how they behaved when those pikeys ransacked that brewery, or refused to collect a stolen caravan that they were told was in a pikey camp. They are either sh*t scared of them or have an (illegal) policy to let them break the law with impunity. Its a bit of both I suspect - the police senior management are SJWs now, so pikeys are their pets, and as the plod rank and file now consists largely of 4'6" females and unfit fat blokes know they get their arses handed to them if they go into a camp.
The police are quite capable of being very forceful when they want to; ask any Brazilian electrician.
The reason IMHO that they will not touch the 'travelling community' is that every member of that community justifies, by their mere existence, the jobs, salaries, expense accounts and index-linked pensions of at least three plump, middle-class, twinset & pearls, Blairite 'social workers'.
No public-sector union is going to flood the goldmine of another. I suggest that this is the main reason for the observed phenomena, the guiding principle as ever being 'follow the money'.
Regards, Reggie Underclass
It seems to me that the Police are afraid of the 'travellers' and always have been. My wife, when she was a young girl, had an unfortunate run in with these low life and the police did nothing and that was in the eighties. I was going to say nothing has changed but I rather suspect that tptb are even more lenient with 'travellers' now as they are an oppressed people, apparently.
Sod the plod, stuff the gypo shit, send in some squaddies, they have a totally different mindset. Clear the site says the captain, start engines says the lieutenant, Raaayyyy say the tank drivers, Squash go the pikeys.
"...anything to do with it forcing them to act rather than shrug shoulders and say "land owner's problem"?"
Bingo!
"Any site for travellers to use has to be paid for from local council taxes, so make payment of residence, however temporary, a condition of access. If they move onto land without prior permission or payment, block them in and stop them from leaving until they both pay and clean up the site."
Brilliant! But I fear no-one - not even Priti - has the balls...
"It seems to be another one of those malign entities such as Common Purpose that need to be destroyed."
That's EXACTLY what it is...
"It seems to me that the Police are afraid of the 'travellers' and always have been. "
That needs to stop. The police are the ones who should be feared. We don't want social workers in blue.
"We don't want social workers in blue".
Wake up and smell the REALITY.
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