Tuesday 19 May 2009

Hitler Youth: Yr Doin’ It...Actually, Pretty Well!

Children as young as seven are being recruited by councils to act as 'citizen snoopers', the Daily Mail can reveal.

The 'environment volunteers' will report on litter louts, noisy neighbours - and even families putting their rubbish out on the wrong day.
Presumably, this is with the full knowledge and acquiescence of their parents?
…Islington Council in north London has recruited 1,200 'Islington Eyes' to report crime hotspots, fly-tipping and excess noise from DIY.

Volunteers are given a list of things to do when confronted with fly-tippers, including taking photos 'without being seen'.
And if they are seen, and assaulted, or worse? Will the parents then have the cheek to take the councils to court for child endangerment?

Seriously, what parent could agree to this? What sort of outlook on life must they have, to allow their children to be used in this way?
Welwyn Hatfield Council in Hertfordshire has given its 13 volunteers handheld computers to take photographs of problem areas.

The information is then uploaded to a map of trouble spots.
Handheld computers, eh? I wonder just how much that cost.
Matthew Elliott, chief executive of the TaxPayers' Alliance, said: 'Community spirit is one thing, spying on your neighbours is quite another.

'It is the job of the police to maintain law and order, and there is no reason taxpayers should have to pay twice for the same service.

'People are sick and tired of being spied on by their councils and in a recession we simply cannot afford luxuries like handheld computers at a time when the most basic public services are being scaled back.'
Well, indeed.

But don’t expect them to cut back on the ‘green’ issues along with the meals-on-wheels and road repairs. No-one made their political fortune championing the non-trendy causes of making sure the roads were free of potholes and the grass verges kept tidy.
A spokesman for the council said: 'Welwyn Hatfield Borough Council and its project partner Serco do not conduct any surveillance of residents in enforcement of environmental crimes, and neither do the community champions that have volunteered.'
Why have you dished out hand-held computers with camera capability then?

Especially when other councils have been far more sensible, at least on the money aspect:
…Hillingdon Borough Council in north London, which has recruited 4,800 volunteers from the age of 16 in the past 18 months, simply gives its 'Street Champions' pens and a folder of contact details.

A spokesman said: 'Street Champions themselves have confirmed that it is not a scheme where people are asked to spy on neighbours. Street Champions are asked to act just as any other resident might to report issues in their local area.'

The spokesman added that two brothels had been closed down this year as a result of reports.
Just how do you close down a brothel without spying on your neighbours?

And of course, the progressives hit back in the only way they know how:
A spokesman for the Local Government Association said: 'Environment volunteers are people who care passionately about their local area and want to protect it from vandals, graffitists and fly-tippers.

'These community-spirited residents are not snoopers.

'They help councils cut crime and make places cleaner, greener and safer.'
There, you see? You can justify anything these days, as long as you ‘care passionately’ about something that the progressives profess to care about…

12 comments:

Von Spreuth. said...

Just how do you close down a brothel without spying on your neighbours?HEL!!

The bloody POLICE go fully armed to "spy" on some of these places. And they are asking bloody stupid Johnsson (Banker by proffession, and as much street nouse as my bleeding hamster) and his son to do it????

Von Brandenburg-Preußen.

Malthebof said...

If there proper effective policing, ie bobbys on the beat, none of this would be required. Robert Peel's policing rules are even more apposite for today.

Letters From A Tory said...

Getting children to close down brothels? Something isn't right here....

Anonymous said...

I suspect "handheld computers" actually means smartphones.

Pretty cheap in fact, especially as the council probably already has a deal with one of the big suppliers, so they get them at a standard rate; probably they have a pile of them in a cupboard somewhere, ready to hand out.

Not to detract from the main point of your post, natch.

Dr Melvin T Gray said...

'Hitler Youth' is more or less fair. More worrying is the potential to develop Angkor Youth.

Von Spreuth. said...

Dr Melvin T Gray said...

'Hitler Youth' is more or less fair. More worrying is the potential to develop Angkor Youth.
Angkor Wat?

Von Brandenburg-Preußen.

Umbongo said...

This is just practice for the appointment of block wardens to be in charge of handing out ration cards etc. You don't believe me? Then look at this fully paid up member of the political class instructing as all to be green - until it hurts.

Anonymous said...

Van Spreuth @ 10:47,
It was Pol Pot's version of HJ.

JuliaM said...

"The bloody POLICE go fully armed to "spy" on some of these places."

Yikes! I'm surprised the famously risk-averse council lawyers haven't stepped in, then...

"Robert Peel's policing rules are even more apposite for today."

Sadly, I don't think we'll see their like again...

"I suspect "handheld computers" actually means smartphones."

Could well be.

"..block wardens to be in charge of handing out ration cards etc."

Oooh, I look forward to the inevitable Block Wars then.. ;)

Von Spreuth. said...

Anonymous said...

Van Spreuth @ 10:47,
It was Pol Pot's version of HJ.

19 May 2009 13:20
Cheers!

I had not heard of them.

Von Brandenburg-Preußen.

Pogo said...

Letters From A Tory said...

Getting children to close down brothels? Something isn't right here....
I suppose that it's marginally better than getting children to work in them...

blind steve said...

A spokesman for the council said: 'Welwyn Hatfield Borough Council and its project partner Serco do not conduct any surveillance of residents in enforcement of environmental crimes, and neither do the community champions that have volunteered.' He's missed a bit off. You or I or the man on the Clapham Omnibus would call it surveillance, yes.

It's not classed as 'surveillance' for the purposes of RIPA though, so none of the oversight mechanisms kick in. Sly. Very sly.

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