Wednesday, 1 July 2020

Don't Say 'It Could Never Happen'...

Surgeon Christopher Inglefield says a successful uterus implant into a trans-female is now achievable after success in fertility medicine in Brazil
Did you think it would stop at this?
Two years ago a woman in Brazil became the first mother to give birth to her child using a womb transplanted from a deceased donor to a woman. It was a major breakthrough in fertility medicine when the little girl was born healthy and weighing 5.6lbs.
It comes just four years after the world’s first womb transplant baby from a live donor was born in Sweden in 2014.
If you did, you really haven't been paying attention....
Mr Inglefield, a specialist in gender confirmation surgery as well as facial and body feminisation, said: “This pioneering birth is extremely important for any trans female who would like to carry her own child.
“Because once the medical community accept this as a treatment for cis-women with uterine infertility, such as congenital absence of a womb, then it would be illegal to deny a trans-female who has completed her transition.
"There are clearly anatomical boundaries when it comes to trans women but these are problems that I believe can be surmounted and the transplant into a trans-female is essentially identical to that of a cis-female.”
It's a horrifying thought, but surely medical ethics should step i...

Oh, who am I kidding?
The Human Fertilisation and Embryology Authority (HFEA) confirm there are no regulations in place to prevent a trans woman who has received a uterus transplant from having IVF treatment.
Oh, brave new world...

19 comments:

Feral said...

If women have the money to do this then good luck to them. Live and let live.

PJH said...

Are uteri covered under the Organ Seizure Act? Is there to be a waiting list?

Enquiring minds, etc.

Doonhamer said...

"They" could become both mum and dad to some other "they".
Family trees will become amazing things.
Will maternity leave and paternity leave run consecutively?
Eastenders possible plot lines have increased exponentially.

Bucko said...

It's not a man wanting a womb that bothers me, it's the fact that we're going to be paying for it.
More and more people will be going to America for treatment that the NHS deems too expensive, while the Left continue to hold up America as the shining example of an evil system that leaves people to die in the streets, yet demanding that hairy arsed blokes get free womb transplants, so as not to be discriminated against.
Oh and the fact that any child born from such a womb would not stand a tiny chance at a normal, happy life

Anonymous said...

Still doesn't make him a woman. Makes him a freak.

Unknown said...

It's a funny old world. If I were to suddenly experience the nauseous impulse to be a woman, the state becomes obliged to consider me as a prospective uterine implantee.

Which is pretty ridiculous when you know those taxes would be far better spent providing Mr Plod with a pair of hairy balls or a pair of silicone knee pads.

Anonymous said...

Now that "Could we do that?" has been answered, perhaps someone should look at "Should we do that?"
Penseivat

Unknown said...

No talk of ovaries here so presumably the frankenwomb would either be entirely cosmetic or just be a brief stop for a foetus. It seems that, theoretically, a tranny could father a child, have it transplanted into his grafted womb and then 'give birth' via caesarian. Without needing to even have his knackers off. Sounds monstrous and of course the tranny is still the father of the child and fundamentally male.

My main concern is not actually the sci fi horror nature of the above, but simply that I would not trust 90% of trannies alone with a child, even their own, especially if the poor thing was female. The 'trans' movement is an unholy confection of narcissism, perversion and misogyny.

MC

UsedtobeBanned said...

Do they give they a clit as well ?

PJH said...

@UsedtobeBanned:

"Do they give they a clit as well ?"

Probably TMI (and taking this far too seriously,) here, but that was sorted years ago. They use what they keep of the glans during the clitoroplasty.

Feral said...

Some of the comments on here are so uneducated.
LGBT people have been and have to be so brave to be themselves. Even in this day and age of 'acceptance' there is much prejudice. To 'come out' is one of the most difficult things to do I would imagine and these human beings deserve support, not ridicule. LGBT people don't just wake up and decide to be different. It's a long and painful road and other people should be encouraging and supportive and positive towards them. If a trans woman wants to carry her own child and has the money for the surgery then who is to say that's wrong. LGBT people love just like straight people. In that there is no difference amongst us. We are all the same.

PJH said...

@Feral - I sit corrected, and proffer my abject apologies.

I was under the, apparently mistaken, impression that this was a clarion call for the rest of us to pay for it via the NHS, like many of the other such surgeries that are currently performed to correct the mortally painful differences there can be between brain and body...

I'm still left wondering where all these uteri are going to come from, however.

Anonymous said...

Yes, but given no (real) vagina, presumably any child born would be delivered anally? So it wouldn't be a real birth, it would just be going through the motions... I'll get my coat

Anonymous said...

Don't sit corrected to comfortablely PJH there is absolutely no doubt at all we will be paying for the NHS to do this soon.

Feral said...

@ PJH.
Thanks for being so polite.
Having the surgery on the NHS is a tricky one. If a cis woman is born without or has a damaged womb, she would be entitled to have surgery to correct that on the NHS if she wants a child. These days a transgender person can get corrective surgery on the NHS. If a male wants to become female and they want to carry their own child then I think it should be done on the NHS. I do think however, that people that have not paid much in taxes and national insurance etc should be made to contribute towards costs for any non life saving operations. I hope you agree.

PJH said...

@Feral, "I do think however, that people that have not paid much in taxes and national insurance etc should be made to contribute towards costs for any non life saving operations."

I'd, mayhap, go further and possibly suggest that all those generous people should also help with the cost of raising any such issue from any aforementioned trans(!)planted uterus.

More so, if the sperm provider (presuming, naturellement, the donor wasn't the recipient of said uterus to begin with) were to no longer be present for whatever reason.

Feral said...

PJH.
I should have been clearer. I meant people that are having these operations to contribute towards costs. Not the general public.

JuliaM said...

"If women have the money to do this then good luck to them."

As others have pointed out, it doesn't stay at 'their money' for long. And fake tits or fanny is one thing. Have at it, 'ladies', so long as you're paying.

But this Frankensteinian idea involves an innocent third party.

And that I will NEVER support.

"Are uteri covered under the Organ Seizure Act?"

Thank god I opted out.

"Family trees will become amazing things."

We'll have to invent whole new names for it!

"Oh and the fact that any child born from such a womb would not stand a tiny chance at a normal, happy life"

This is the kicker for me.

"Now that "Could we do that?" has been answered, perhaps someone should look at "Should we do that?""

Taking the advice of Dr Ian Malcolm is always wise...

JuliaM said...

"The 'trans' movement is an unholy confection of narcissism, perversion and misogyny."

Certainly that's true of the vocal minority who seem to be its only voice.

"Some of the comments on here are so uneducated."

We aren't the ones arguing that mutilating your body can work a miracle and make you something you aren't. That's truly uneducated. Or willfully ignorant of biology.

"If a cis woman is born without or has a damaged womb, she would be entitled to have surgery to correct that on the NHS if she wants a child. "

That's correcting a defect. Not indulging someone's belief that they have a defect.