Monday, 19 July 2010

Why Our Streets Are Full Of Violent Offenders

A blood-soaked man confronted police officers with a meat cleaver in one hand and a knife in the other, a court heard.

They arrived after Steven McGran, 38, was seen wielding the weapons on his doorstep and shouting: “Come on, who wants it?”
It seems he’d had one of those ‘New Year–related’ episodes, and decided to drive his partner and her eight-year-old daughter out into the street while he re-enacted key scenes from his favourite action films.

Tear gas had no effect, negotiation had no effect, the progressives won’t allow a tactical airstrike or shooting multiple times (though they could have said they mistook him for a particularly upright cow?), so it was down to the taser and brute force:
After two hours police decided to enter the building. They found McGran in a bedroom and, when he refused to give himself up, used a Taser stun gun to subdue him before wrestling him to the ground.
He wasn’t unknown to the authorities, either:
McGran, of Brempsons, Basildon, had already been jailed for two years for leaving a man with brain damage after punching him in the street on Christmas Eve 2005.
It seems the holidays don’t make everyone cheerful and mellow. What a shock…

And now we come to the other half of our system of law and order:
Recorder Rex Bryan, sitting at Basildon Crown Court on Tuesday, said it was clear McGran needed professional help.
Unless ‘professional help’ is some kind of magistrate’s euphemism for ‘a rocket up the jacksie and a long prison sentence’, I think we know where this is going, don’t we?
The judge handed down a six-month prison sentence, suspended for 18 months, and said he will be supervised by the probation service to make sure he gets help for his psychological, drug and alcohol problems.

Well, I’m sure that’ll work wonders.


Peperbarmi said...

Grrrraaaaaaahhhh fucking typical,another maniac let loose to prey on the law abiding,give im a bottle of white lightening and a bag of speed and shove him through the Judges front door.

Furor Teutonicus said...

and shove him through the Judges front door.

Sorry, my mistake. I thought at first you were talking about the Judge.

Woman on a Raft said...

Basildon. There is a stupidity field surrounding the place.

Heather, 16, is on crutches following her tumble on Monday afternoon outside the hospital’s accident and emergency department. Construction work is ongoing to create a new A&E department and fracture clinic.

Why is everyone complaining; she's had an accident, so it worked, didn't it?

Brian, follower of Deornoth said...

"McGran needs professional help." Quite so. He needs help from a professional hangman.

Recorder Rex Bryan should also receive professional help; from his solicitor, defending his prosecution for perjury.

English Viking said...

Try this; 39 lashes with a cat o' nine tails on the Town Hall steps. We'll see how hard he is then, and it might just motivate him to 'address his offending behaviour'.

Furor Teutonicus said...

Brian, follower of Deornoth said...

Recorder Rex Bryan should also receive professional help; from his solicitor, defending his prosecution for perjury.

You show your TOTAL lack of knowledge as to what constitutes an offence of "perjury".

WHERE has the RECORDER (NOT "Judge", lied before the court?

Brian, follower of Deornoth said...


Perhaps I should have said 'perverting the course of justice'.

And a recorder is a judge, by the way.

Anonymous said...

This bloke got quite tough treatment compared with most. I'm now convinced the Peperbarmi Solution is needed. It wouldn't matter if we shoved the creep through the wrong official's door - they are all to blame. After all, they do more or less exactly this to us

JuliaM said...

"Basildon. There is a stupidity field surrounding the place. "

Heh! Indeed there is, and yet they still escape...

"This bloke got quite tough treatment compared with most."

Now, that's frightening!


Dredd, Judge Joseph said...

Possess offensive weapon
Title: Offensive weapons
Offence: Possess offensive weapon

Legislation: Prevention of Crime Act 1953 Section 1

Mode of Trial: Either way

Statutory Limitations & Maximum Penalty: 4 years

Sentencing Range:
Aggravating & Mitigating Factors

* Specific planned use of the weapon
* Hostility towards a minority group or individual. Racially/reg aggravated
* Acting under the influence of drugs or drink.
* Very dangerous weapon.
* Group action.
* Location
* No attempt to use.
* No premeditation
* Carried on a temporary basis
* Acting out of genuine fear

Relevant Sentencing Guidelines (If Any)

See below
Relevant Sentencing Case Law

Poulton and Celaire [2003] 1 Cr App R (S) 116
Where the weapon is ancillary to another more serious offence a concurrent sentence will be appropriate. Where the weapon is distinct and independent, a consecutive sentence will be appropriate.

Although some weapons are more serious than others the nature of the weapon will not be the primary determinant, as this will depend on its intended use. But the nature of the weapon may shed light on the offenders intention eg if the weapon is offensive per se.

R v Buzzer [1996] 2 Cr App R (S) 271
Possession of a flick knife. Good character but pleaded NG. 3 months prison.

R v Dorado [2006] 1 Cr App R (S)
Road rage type case. D pulled out meat cleaver on another driver. No intention of premeditated violence. D worked as chef. 6 months prison. (And 6 months concurrent to an affray charge arising out of same incident).

R v Proctor [2000] 1 Cr App R (S) 295
D in possession of plastic bottle containing ammonia, capable of causing discomfort but not permanent injury. NG plea, pre cons. 9 months.

CPS Guidelines. Go figure!

JuliaM said...

"CPS Guidelines. Go figure!"

i guess that's why they call them 'guidelines'.

I'm not in favour of strict mandatory sentences, as they lead to as many miscarriages of justice. But I am very much in favour of sensible judges with no pressure on them not to jail those who deserve it.

Anonymous said...

All you.s people no fuck all about Steven mcgran. I rest my case .!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...


Furor Teutonicus said...

I have no problem with "understanding mental health problems". Every one of them can be cured with help of a gas chamber.

And I include people that write entirely in capitals, and can not spell into the bargain as "Mentaly ill", as well.

Anonymous said...

Bring it on lol lol ???

Anonymous said...

Who won the war lol

JuliaM said...

"All you.s people no fuck all about Steven mcgran."

Mmm, I think we know quite enough, thanks.

"And I include people that write entirely in capitals, and can not spell into the bargain..."

Wouldn't want your gas bill, then, FT. There's billions of them... ;)

Anonymous said...

u dont no FUCK ALL prick !!!

JuliaM said...

Well, anon, you're half-way on the way to convincing me with your devastating use of logic and well-reasoned persuasion...

Furor Teutonicus said...

And not the imbiciles marvelous command of the English language, Julia?

You do surprise me.

A better candidate, than this louse, for a good dosage of the old Zyklon B I have really met.