Another neighbour said: 'Something more should have been done to protect Kim and the kids. The police knew there was trouble - I’m glad they are investigating their own officers.'Words utterly fail me…
Let’s look at these two star-crossed lovers, shall we?
Kayleigh met Mills in an internet chatroom while she was in school studying for her GCSEs. Mills left his home in Manchester to move to Cwmbran and Kayleigh later became pregnant with twins.
It is understood that the pair had been dating for about a year.She was 17 at the time of her death. He is 27. And OK, it happens even with those who are in a position where they should know better. But it's strange that this case isn't getting half as much salacious headlines as last week's case, isn't it?
A close family friend said: ‘It was touch and go for a long time - they have been back and forward to the hospital for months and months. Kim was very supportive and did everything she could for her daughter and grandchild.
‘She even gave up her job as an Avon lady to dedicate all of her time to caring for them both.’My goodness, but you must make amazing amounts of dosh as an Avon lady to have enough put by to support your feckless pregnant daughter, her offspring, and no doubt the totally unemployable layabout who sired them!
Oh, wait. We’re paying, aren’t we? Again!
But don’t think me merely hard-hearted! There were victims for whom I felt a great sense of pity:
The family's three pet dogs - labrador Roxy, terrier Tiny and a Staffordshire called Kenzo - also perished in the fire.Along with the child, the only true innocents…
A spokesman for the IPCC said it had not yet had a referral but was expecting one and would begin an investigation once it had been received.Oh, I’m sure it will.
I normally try not to judge people negatively on looks but he really does look like a rat faced low life bastard doesnt he?
(I must stop going to those phrenology classes LOL !)
The police are to blame? Again? WTF?
Police are always to blame-it saves time.
I dealt with an arrest today of a little rat drug-dealer,(caught dealing at a school).He said that he wanted the police to protect him as he had got in debt with his dealer who had threatened to stab him over £80.He had a de-brief with our DI who decided that the best place to keep him safe would be to keep him in custody until court tomorrow and then we would oppose bail there.Not quite the help he expected but very amusing all the same....
I agree with Jaded, it was obviously the Police's fault. What they should have done was arrange a team of 4 officers per 8 hour shift over a 24 hour period from the date of the first threat and maintained that until everyone either died of old age or complained about constant Police harrassment. The fact that they didn't has shown just how negilgent the Police are in that part of the country. On the other hand, they could have passed the matter over to Social Service (ha, ha, ha, ha!) or even used some of their unemployment benefits to a private security company - I understand G4S are doing a special deal at the moment. The other option is to ask Noggy and Melv to step in as they seem to have all the answers. Oh, sorry, Melv is only allowed out under close supervision and Noggy's Mum won't let him out without clean udnerwear (and we all know that that's not going to happen).
Well, we can at least be sure that Lessons Will Be Learnt
"Well, we can at least be sure that Lessons Will Be Learnt"
The above statement was tested under laboratory conditions, using eleven standard plod subjects housed in a single enclosure, over an eight hour period.
Traces of intelligence were indeed confirmed and evidenced by eleven different meanings for and eleven different spellings of, the word 'collusion'.
But it's strange that this case isn't getting half as much salacious headlines as last week's case, isn't it?
There is little possible story development, the victims are dead and somebody has been arrested which makes it much more difficult to write anything although charges have not been brought yet.
However, a relevant question might be: what age was Kayleigh when she was first approached and what age was she when she gave birth? This is not so obvious from the story. We know she left school last year and was 17 at her death, suggesting that she became pregnant at just over 16 years of age, but that may not be the case.
Age matters because if the police had been promptly informed when Mills approached a 15 year old, then some action could have been taken under s.15. As police are not psychic, this would have relied on the late grandmother knowing what had happened and to whom to call. She probably didn't.
Then again, if Kayleigh was under 16 and became pregnant, it has been noted repeatedly that the social services could raise alarms and do not.
Perhaps now is the time to do so as a matter of public policy because many people seem to have become hopelessly confused as to whether sex with under-16 is lawful. It isn't. Not even if they consent.
An IPCC investigation is warranted because as we have seen, the police also have become confused on this point. If - big IF - they missed a chance to take action before this escalated then there are lessons to be learned.
My guess, however, is that they simply didn't know anything about it.
"I normally try not to judge people negatively on looks..."
Sometimes, it just saves time...
"The police are to blame? Again?"
That's what happens when you encourage a dependency culture. The US is only very slightly ahead of us on this one.
"He said that he wanted the police to protect him as he had got in debt with his dealer who had threatened to stab him over £80."
Surely, even with the looming pension crisis, a whip-round at the station would have netted the £80 and you could have persuaded the dealer to make a good job of it?
"On the other hand, they could have passed the matter over to Social Service (ha, ha, ha, ha!)..."
What, I wonder, do we pay them for, that they weren't already involved?!?
"Age matters because if the police had been promptly informed when Mills approached a 15 year old, then some action could have been taken under s.15."
But would almost certainly have had it binned by the CPS.
Maybe, maybe not.
The CPS is currently being criticised for their decision to prosecute in the case of Craig Daniel Evans, a nitwit who managed to send a rude text to everyone on his contact list instead of just his girlfriend.
This included two minors, and he was duly convicted in respect of them under s.10 and imprisoned for 18 months in July.
The appeal has just gone through and the penalty reduced to 9 months and suspended but, crucially, the conviction still stands although it appears to be for being careless rather than what s.10 was supposed to do; provide action against those targeting children.
If the CPS can get a conviction for mere accidents, they should be able to secure one easily where public policy is to hinder those trying to manipulate children.
I'm not condoning the Evans prosecution; I'm just pointing out that the CPS has a reasonable set of cards to play if it chooses.
'That's what happens when you encourage a dependency culture. The US is only very slightly ahead of us on this one.'
Really? Google 'sexual abuse', 'therapy', 'American middle class' and 'false memory syndrome' and 'misery me memoirs'.
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