Friday, 2 December 2011

Perhaps If The Police Were More Effective….

…they wouldn’t need to take steps to protect the people they haul in and then let go on bail:
Two teenagers arrested in connection with the murder of tragic Nellie Geraghty – who died after trying to stop muggers taking her handbag which contained her late husband’s ashes – have been offered panic alarms amid fears of vigilante attacks.
*sigh*
Detectives investigating the death of the 79-year-old widow, fear angry members of the community may take the law into their own hands.
Well, it’s looking like the only thing that prompts a speedy police response these days is the threat of vigilante action…

13 comments:

Anonymous said...

The sad thing on policing in general is they aren't capable of seeing any faults in what they do. There are some who know and would like to set things straight, but this is career suicide or 'mortgage abortion' in what might be Gadget's terms.
I suspect, deep down, the fault lies in an over=promoted society in which governance has been taken out almost as in Korean prisoner of war camps. Any sign of moral leadership is stripped out and replaced by bureaucracy. Cops just don't do coppering, bankers only inest in their mad bubbles and so on. We have a legitimation crisis.
In the end a decent copper like our local Booby is worth more then Rooney or twenty 'suits' but we pay him crap and give the money to the thieving management.
I tend to think we have ended-up with Plato's communist free table by inaction. I'm having trouble selling up to get out.

Anonymous said...

Thinking about your blog over the last couple of years AP - I've been more entertained than by such as breakfast television (apologies for the comparison) - but then realise this stuff is much more 'serious'. And I don't need the off-button here either!

Bucko said...

So the police will let you get away with anything apart from doing thier job for them.

Anonymous said...

I'm struggling to see what your point is? Two people have been arrested and on interview have denied being responsible. Without 'EVIDENCE' to the contrary they have been released.

For all we know they are innocent. Haven't innocent but suspected paedophiles been murdered and attacked by the 'mob'. Seems perfectly sensible to put measures in place to protect them from ignorant vigilantes.

The reference to getting a speedy response, i suppose you are used to watching CSI and seeing murderers caught and convicted inside an hour with advertisements included.

Imagine your vexed post if these arrested people turn out to be innocent but end up murdered by a mob. Oh what a lovely cop-bashing headline that would be.

Gallovidian said...

Any decent police force would have done their duty and shot them as they tried to escape.

Oh by the way, any descriptions of the perpetrators?

Mick Turatian said...

Two people have been arrested and on interview have denied being responsible. Without 'EVIDENCE' to the contrary they have been released.

What can have been the basis for arresting the two teenagers in the first place?

I'm afraid that this looks a bit sloppy and if a fear of reprisals by 'vigilantes' is justifiable, then all the more reason for conducting the enquiries more prudently and discretely in the first place.

Anonymous said...

The police did not kill this woman.
We are bound by the rules of investigation bought in by YOUR elected MP's.Even if they are murdering scum the police have a duty of care to look after them while they are on bail.
Mick-As for the "discretely" comment-the public want results yesterday.Have you inside information that indicated the investigation has been sloppy,or have you just been reading the Daily Mail again?
Jaded

Trustnomore said...

In the interest of balance and fair play, how many panic alarms have the police offered to poor Mrs Geraghty's peer group (who might justifiably be more that a little afraid to venture out) ?

All tonights beer money's on a big fat zero.

"it’s looking like the only thing that prompts a speedy police response these days is the threat of vigilante action"

No, I won't have that, they can get there pretty quick if you're from the correct victim group.

The court heard the police arrived within about five minutes of the call to find two men standing by the St George’s flag

http://www.getreading.co.uk/news/s/2084761_scared_by_english_defence_league_protest

Captain Haddock said...

"No, I won't have that, they can get there pretty quick if you're from the correct victim group" ...

Like when someone accidentally steps on the "St Stephen Lawrence" plaque ? ..

Shame that the same response (along with full-time CCTV monitoring) can't be applied to our War Memorials .. which would deter metal thieves ..

But then .. when the local Borough Commander's next promotion depends on the perceptions of others .. there are limited numbers of feathers to go in caps ..

JuliaM said...

"The sad thing on policing in general is they aren't capable of seeing any faults in what they do."

Indeed. And when challenged, retreat behind boilerplate PR statements. Which, frankly, serves only to wind people up...

" And I don't need the off-button here either!"

Heh! ;)

"So the police will let you get away with anything apart from doing thier job for them."

I really feel we are going to see yet more and more vigilantism as people start to wake up to the fact that the state seems to exist to protect itself, and not them...

"For all we know they are innocent. "

Or, far more likely, it was a case of 'round up the usual suspects'...

JuliaM said...

"Seems perfectly sensible to put measures in place to protect them from ignorant vigilantes."

As Trustnomore points out, though, how many real victims get this from the police? Except, of course, when they want to run a bit of a PR campaign, of course...

"But then .. when the local Borough Commander's next promotion depends on the perceptions of others .. there are limited numbers of feathers to go in caps .."

Spot on!

Woman on a Raft said...

At time for writing, the tram lady, Emma West, has been taken in to protective custody and her child removed from her. In apparently similar circumstances these two have been given panic alarms and left at home.

Emma West may eventually be prosecuted on a public order offence. These two may eventually be prosecuted for an offence which once carried the death penalty.

Mick Turatian said...

As for the "discretely" comment-the public want results yesterday

Well that's precisely the problem, isn't it?

If there's a reasonable fear that people will turn into vigilantes it's wiser not to feed the anticipated reaction by announcing arrests.

No need for inside information - it's clear enough from the post that the potential vigilante problem was of the police's creation.

The Daily Mail is a very successful and popular newspaper but your snipe at it (and me) here is not worthy of you.